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zorroloco
14-Jun-21, 08:50

Ace
“Do you like to claim that the protesters who are saying like this are minority and don't represent the majority Guatemalans ?”

Well there are better than 17,000,000 Guatemaltecos, 90% of whom are very poor. I saw a few dozen well dressed, apparently affluent protesters. You do the math.

“The alternative theory is that the protesters are Trump's stooges or lackeys paid for by GOP supporters”

That’s one, fairly unlikely alternative.

I suspect it’s more likely the Guate wealthy irritated that their fat cat buddy tRump was fired and they’re no longer able to milk the cow of corruption.

“ similar to BLM protesters”

In no way are these people similar to BLM protesters other than by being protesters.
brigadecommander
14-Jun-21, 09:43

Deleted by brigadecommander on 15-Jun-21, 04:56.
bobspringett
14-Jun-21, 15:44

Ace and Zorro
I see a large slice of agreement here.

You both agree that 'Guatemalan Communism' is scare story put out to justfiy American neo-colonialism.

You both agree, even if tacitly, that the current Guatemalan regime is an American puppet.

Yet Ace still thinks that protests against Kamala, involving a mere handful of well-dressed men putting up large, professionally-produced banners in English, 'represent the majority of Guatemalans'!

Really, Ace! Think things through!
bobspringett
14-Jun-21, 15:49

Zorro 8:50
<In no way are these people similar to BLM protesters other than by being protesters.>

I can see one strong similarity. In both cases, the protesters were peaceful.

The difference was that in the States, peaceful protesters were infiltrated or provoked by right-wing thugs or opportunists. That would never happen to a Guatemalan protest staged by the right-wing and supported by a military dictatorship.
ace-of-aces
16-Jun-21, 08:22

Laughing stock Kamala Harris
youtu.be
Sky News Australia
1.73M subscribers
Whenever US Vice President Kamala Harris is stuck for an answer on the border crisis, “she just laughs,” according to Sky News host Chris Kenny.

“Border protection is her special responsibility,” he said.

“It’s not funny, she hasn’t even been to the border to see the crisis she has created and the human trauma she needs to repair.”
zorroloco
16-Jun-21, 08:33

Ace
Chris Kenny?
Sky News Australia??

You ARE digging deep for propaganda, aren’t you.

Speaking of laughing stocks....
knight_rider179
16-Jun-21, 08:58

Ace
She's a bafoon just like Dementia Joe. Can't wait until the next round of elections!!
zorroloco
16-Jun-21, 09:21

Knight
“Buffoon” (note spelling)?
“Demented”??

Didn’t you support the totally inarticulate rambling Ahole buffoon of buffoons, tRump?

“Can’t wait till next election.”

Lol. You’ve no choice. America chose President Biden and Vice President Harris. Your buffoon lost fair and square by 8 million votes.

Deal with it. Or whine some more, which is what I expect
knight_rider179
16-Jun-21, 09:37

Obviously you've been asleep in the basement with Sleepy Joe, any person with 10% of a brain knows that Trump won the election in a landslide.
knight_rider179
16-Jun-21, 09:40

And besides America did not choose Chairman Biden because again, anyone with 10% of a brain knew what would happen if that clown got elected what would happen to our nation and here we are. Joey was inserted into The White House, you know it, I know it, everyone knows.
zorroloco
16-Jun-21, 09:44

Knight
“any person with 10% of a brain knows that Trump won the election in a landslide.”

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Fortunately, the 70,000,000 ‘10%ers’ who voted for tRump were overruled by those of us with 100% of our brains.
vocihc
16-Jun-21, 10:05

is it
tRumptard
or
tRumpturd
I think they're interchangeable in most cases...
bobspringett
16-Jun-21, 16:37

Knight 09:37
<any person with 10% of a brain knows that Trump won the election in a landslide.>

Or to be more grammatically correct, "Any person who 'knows' that Trump won the election in a landslide has 10% of a brain".
vocihc
16-Jun-21, 16:46

😁
👏

ace-of-aces
19-Jun-21, 09:22

Kamala Harris should be replaced with Trump to deal migrant crisis.
56 House Republicans urge Biden to remove Harris from leading role on migration crisis

More than 50 House Republicans are urging President Biden to remove Vice President Kamala Harris from her role dealing with the migrant crisis that has overwhelmed the southern border in recent months -- accusing her of "inaction" on the crisis due to her failure to visit the border.

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"Despite being in the midst of a border crisis this country has not seen in two decades, Vice President Harris has not yet shown adequate interest in observing this crisis first-hand," the 56 lawmakers, led by Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wis., wrote. "In the 85 days since the Vice President has been tasked with solving this crisis, she has yet to visit the border and meet with Border Patrol agents, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials and local law enforcement officials."

DEMOCRATIC REP. CUELLAR URGES KAMALA HARRIS TO VISIT BORDER AMID IMMIGRATION CRISIS

Harris was appointed more than 80 days ago to lead diplomatic talks to solve what the White House described as the "root causes" of the migrant crisis -- such as poverty, climate change, and violence in Central America.

Harris recently visited both Guatemala and Mexico as part of her responsibilities, meeting with leaders and announcing a number of investments in both countries to tackle those root causes -- while urging migrants not to come to the border. Harris described her trip as a success, though she was dogged by questions about her failure to visit the border

The White House and the administration have sought to clarify that Harris is not in charge of the border per se and is instead focused on diplomatic talks, but Republicans have said it is still important for her to visit the border to truly understand the crisis that saw more than 180,000 migrant encounters in May.

Republicans have blamed the crisis on the administration’s policies -- particularly the rollback of Trump-era policies like border wall construction and the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP).

TEXAS GOV. ABBOTT SAYS HARRIS HASN'T CALLED HIM ABOUT MIGRANT CRISIS SINCE VP WAS APPOINTED AS BORDER CZAR

The lawmakers who wrote to Biden this week said that, even if root causes are to blame, "the exclusive focus on Central American countries ignores the fact that we see many migrants attempting to illegally cross our southern border from countries all over the world, including Russia, Brazil, Cuba and Haiti."

"We are also aware of no dramatic changes in Central American countries over the last few months that would result in such a wide gap of encounters at the southern border compared to last year," they say.

DARRELL ISSA INVITES VP HARRIS TO VISIT THE CALIFORNIA-MEXICO BORDER

They also blast the administration for ignoring its own policies that they say enticed migrants to make the journey north.

"This country cannot afford another minute of inaction from Vice President Harris," the lawmakers tell Biden as they urge him to replace Harris as the point-person for the crisis. "While you have publicly defended the Vice President, even you must be discouraged with her inaction."

The Biden administration defended its handling of the crisis this week, with Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas saying its strategy was working.

"We have a strategy," Mayorkas said. "We are executing that strategy, I am confident in the strategy and I am confident in the proposal we have submitted to this Congress to best resource that strategy."
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 12:20

BORDER CRISIS
Article IV, Section 4 of our Constitution REQUIRES our government to
PROTECT and DEFEND our borders. If government does not, the Constitution,
by virtue of the named part herein, AUTHORIZES the free citizens to defend
themselves and their state in place of a TREASONOUS GOVERNMENT.
**note** In NOT defending our borders, government gives "aid and comfort"
to a hostile foreign invasion; and THIS under Article lll, Section 3 of our Constitution
is PROPERLY labeled "TREASON!!"
brigadecommander
19-Jun-21, 12:27

Hostile invasion
Yes, many thousands of children pose a great threat!!! Armed to the teeth! They might even storm the Capital and kill and maim!!! Like the benign white supremacist's did. .Little children are far more dangerous it seems.

STUPID IDIOTS.
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 12:55

100% correct, Biden Administration = STUPID IDIOTS!!!
We are witnessing what is a full blown disaster at our southern border and YOU are going to pay the price. This is a full blown crisis, it is a humanitarian crisis, it is a national security crisis, it is a health & safety for you and your family crisis, but instead of tackling this crisis head on, The Biden Administration have been and are waging nothing but a PR war all in an attempt to cover up what our eyes show us and that means the truth!! The situation is so dire now, there are officials risking their jobs and sounding the alarm, brand new explosive breaking report..

One border patrol agent now provides what is the most graphic description of recent conditions at his facility, "The family-unit holding cells smell like urine and vomit. Fights break out in the unaccompanied-minor cells. Scabies, lice, the flu and Covid-19 run rampant. Up to 80 individuals are squeezed into each 24x30 foot cell and any diseases that are in there, it's being kept in there like a petri dish. The smell is overwhelming." A border patrol agent said. Another agent pleading for help wrote, "The overcrowding is inhumane, especially for the children. POD 3A is designed to hold 80 people and on this day we have 694 children with 2 agents maintaining custody. That is 867% of the stated capacity of this detention space!!" WOW, so much for social distancing!!!

According to one border agent, "The detainees are often laying on top of each other because there is no room to sleep. The children have to sleep on their side to save space, in order for them to all lay down in this small space." So let's be very clear, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris YOU have both caused all of this!! You're both completely responsible for this abusive environment for migrant children that they are now living in!!

Joe, YOU told them as a candidate to come. If you're seeking asylum, come. YOUR WORDS. Well you ended the Stay in Mexico policy, you stopped border wall construction, and you also brought back Catch & Release which means the whole country now is being inundated with all of this!!! Joe Biden & Kamala Harris are responsible. Kids are literally being stacked on top of each other inside of plastic cages in the middle of a pandemic. Where is the hysteria from the left??

AND GUESS WHAT??? The border areas in other places that are less secure, that means the cartels, the smugglers, the drug traffickers, the human traffickers, they get all the room they need to operate freely and to add insult to injury, YOU the American people are picking up the tab for all of this!! $87M in hotel rooms that you will be paying for illegal immigrants. $110M in emergency funds to FEMA, $5M every single day in additional expenditures on top of the couple million illegal immigrants getting the $1400 Covid relief checks!! Now take a look at all of this, this is what
Make America Last looks like!!!

Thanks to Joe Biden's and Kamala Harris border policies. YOU the American people, when millions of illegal immigrants enter this country, you will pay for all of their food, all of their clothing, all of their shelter, all of their healthcare, all of their education and if some commit crimes, all of their incarceration, all while the American people are suffering through a pandemic. Joe Biden is putting the interest of illegal immigrants over YOU, law abiding, hard working, tax paying citizens and he is risking your health, your family's health and safety all at the same time.

knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 13:02

MS-13 members arrested & charged w/grizzly murder in NY
The Biden/Harris Administration opened the borders with their actions, their words, their Executive Orders right away and sent big messages to all the cartels, human smugglers, drug dealers, gang members, MS-13 and so forth, to come on in and bring in your new fresh blood in every city in America!!

And guess what? It's not going to stop until this Administration finally admits that this carnage is because of their Executive Orders and actions OR non actions. Quite simply, Biden & Harris need to go to the border and see for themselves how they handcuffed the border patrol by not being able to do what they need to do!!

We need to CLOSE our borders, we need to stop the influx of all these minors because these minors will be inducted and will be working for the gangs and for human trafficking. These children 16 or 17 years old sometimes are not children, they're way older, there's a lot of fraud going on and it has to stop and the insanity in D.C. is so loud it makes your ears bleed!!

It has to stop and it has to stop now because it affects every American everywhere in America, we need to stop this carnage!!!
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 13:27

brigadecommander
The children are a tool being used by human traffickers and yes they do pose a threat because many of them will be groomed and inducted into dangerous gangs such as MS-13.

As far as what happened on Jan 6th, it was reported long ago that this was a planned act that was to happen that day and it recently has been reported the the FBI also had agents in the crowd that stormed the Capitol.

Before it happened the FBI got reports that there was going to be something happening on that day. They asked Nancy if security should be beefed up and she said "No, it wouldn't be a good look on the Capitol."

Quit drinking Kool-aid and watching MSNLSD.

TRUMP 2024!!! 🇺🇲👱‍♂️🇺🇲
MAGAA - Make America Great Again, Again!!! 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 13:35

brigadecommander
BTW, the only person killed on that day was Ashli Babbitt, the girl that was shot by an officer. You noticed all the riots in practically every city in America right? Oh wait a minute, she was Caucasian so no riots, that's right.

TRUMP 2O24!!! 🇺🇲👱‍♂️🇺🇲
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zorroloco
19-Jun-21, 13:42

Crisis? What crisis?
It’s always a crisis with you guys, when the Ds are in office.

Y’all are so scared of everything!!! Or just using scare tactics for political reasons.

Grow a pair. It’s not an invasion. It’s not a crisis. It’s a situation that has been ongoing, with peaks and valleys, for decades.


Is there a crisis on the U.S.-Mexico border?

Oftentimes when people talk about a crisis at the border, they think about uncontrolled numbers of people. If you just look at arrivals at the U.S.-Mexico border in the first quarter of 2021, there is not a crisis. There are increasing numbers, and we have certainly seen a significant rise in the amount of children. But these are not unprecedented numbers. These are certainly not unmanageable numbers. There are peaks and valleys in terms of arrivals.

We saw a significant increase in the amount of people coming in 2014, then again in 2016, again in 2019. And now in 2021, we are seeing an uptick. And those different years have been under different administrations, both Democrat and Republican. So, it is hard to speak of a crisis in terms of the numbers.

If you are seeking refuge and asylum—protection from persecution or extreme violence in your home country—and you come to the U.S.-Mexico border right now, there is a good chance that you will be expelled; that you will not be offered even an opportunity to make an asylum claim. That is a crisis for that individual. That is a crisis for that family. It is a question of perspective. Whose perspective do we adopt when we ask questions like that?

If you come to the U.S.-Mexico border right now, there is a good chance that you will be expelled. That is a crisis for that family.

You are there in El Paso, Tex., so you have that firsthand experience of what is going on. What have you witnessed? What can you tell us about the people who are coming and the stories they are sharing with you?

People cross every day. Students cross every day. Families across every day. Workers across every day. [It’s] a very dynamic and fluid population. What we are seeing is an increase in asylum-seeking families coming from Central America. That has been a real constant, especially over the last decade.

Right now, though, there are some peculiarities to immigration at the border. Certainly, this is also a corridor for migration of unaccompanied youth and minors. We are seeing an increase in that, and it is very complicated. We have also seen the people who were placed in Remain in Mexico. There were about 65,000 people in total returned to Mexico under that policy. Those folks are being given an opportunity to make their asylum claims from the safety of the United States, which is the ordinary process for an asylum seeker. There has also been a real rise in single adults who are crossing the border, and we have not seen that for some time.

Now, at this part of the border, virtually everybody who comes—except for those who were placed in Remain in Mexico—is being returned [to Mexico]. Folks who are trying to come over, even if they are asylum seekers, are being forcibly returned under a pandemic-related order called Title 42, without hearing their claims, without ensuring due process.
brigadecommander
19-Jun-21, 13:43

Diagnoses
Delusional; characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.
"hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia".
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 13:51

TDS
brigadecommander, I get it and it's really not an uncommon condition that you and many others suffer from, a condition known as TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) However there still is hope for you and your kind.

Suggested reading for you and those suffering from TDS is...

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER by Michael Savage

LIBERTY AND TYRANNY by Mark Levin


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brigadecommander
19-Jun-21, 14:00

So boring
so very very very boring. I will not respond to your puking anymore. Zorro can handle you.
knight_rider179
19-Jun-21, 14:11

Let's talk about insanity
The same people who think Trump is mentally ill are the same people who believe...

- There are more than 2 genders
- Illegal immigrants are legal
- Abortions are justified
- Walls are immoral
- Higher taxes are good
- Disrespecting our National Anthem is okay
- Defunding the police is a good idea


TRUMP 2O24!!! 🇺🇲👱‍♂️🇺🇲
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zorroloco
19-Jun-21, 14:16

Knight
We made America great again by voting out the waste of fat that was polluting the Oval Office.

Sour grapes.

You lost. Grow up.
vocihc
19-Jun-21, 15:21

Judging from rider's fervor, I wonder if his commitment led to contributions to the "We Build The Wall" fundraiser...
bobspringett
19-Jun-21, 15:38

Knight 12:20
You should demand a refund of your Law School fees. Unless you're seriously confident you have a good legal argument, in which case you might suggest to the Governor of Texas (a good Republican and Trumpophile) to take it to SCOTUS which currently has a 6-3 majority of judges appointed by Republican presidents.

Simple!!

By-the-way, how many cross the American border each day from Canada? Perhaps we need to worry about that border too! If not, why not? Anything to do with most Canadians being middle-class whites, maybe?
brigadecommander
19-Jun-21, 15:53

utterly hopeless
Arguing with these organisms. They have cropped up in History before. Like Locust. play loud.www.youtube.com We all know what happened that time. We had better not let it happen again. Though I see little hope.
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