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zorroloco
20-Jul-20, 09:27

In Colorado, Gov. Jared Polis said his state noticed decreased spread of the virus in places where more people wore face masks. Polis issued a face mask mandate statewide that took effect July 17.

Top health officials have changed their minds about face mask guidance -- but for good reason

"With the desire to keep the economy open, to maximize the ability to return to school in as safe a way as possible for teachers and for students, the mask mandate was really an easy decision after I saw that data," Gov. Jared Polis told ABC's "This Week."

Doctors and scientists have repeatedly said masks are among the most powerful weapons Americans can use against the virus.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's leading infectious disease expert has urged governors and mayors to be "as forceful as possible" to get Americans to wear face coverings.

In Florida, where daily new cases have tripled in a month, the governor has resisted implementing a mandate and said the state would not be prosecuting people who don't wear face coverings.
But in the city of Miami, officials are doubling down on an existing mask order.

Starting Monday, residents who fail to wear a face mask in public will be fined without first getting a warning. That fine starts at $50 and will increase at every additional offense.
lord_shiva
30-Jul-20, 11:10

2016 US Presidential Candidate Herman Cain
"Don't believe the scare stories. A serious look at the numbers tells you there's no second wave starting. #Coronavirus."

"The numbers don't back up the media's 'second wave' hysteria."

"It should come as no surprise that we're now being pelted with headlines about an 'alarming' increase in COVID-19 cases. The LockdownLeft never wanted to..." hermancain.com

Rest in peace, Mr. Cain.

Victim number 154,411.
hogfysshe
30-Jul-20, 11:31

jeez that's scary. here he is 5 weeks ago looking happy and healthy.
twitter.com
vocihc
30-Jul-20, 11:44

...
and not wearing masks.
SMH
lord_shiva
31-Jul-20, 21:08

United Arab Emirates
Jared Kushner's task pandemic force ordered 3.5 million Covid tests from a UAE company for $42 million. The tests were contaminated and unusable. The UAE company, Cogna Technology Solutions, said, "hey, you have o pay us."

But there was no contract. There was no way the US COULD pay has they wanted to. Beware, foreign vendors, Groper will cheat you just as hard as he cheated American vendors. Of course, we lucked out this time.

$42 million? $12 per test? Did we not qualify for any quantity discount?

In unrelated news, the Jared Pandemic Plan was tabled when the breakouts occurred in Washington, New York, and California. Nasty liberals dying horribly made Trump rub his stubby hands in glee. If these states did not support him they could hang.

I wish that was just a nasty joke at Trump's expense. Instead the joke is on us.
lord_shiva
31-Jul-20, 21:19

Liberals Dying / Trump's Glee
www.yahoo.com

I cannot read this article on this device. Is it remotely related? I see news it is much worse than this headline indicates.

www.refinery29.com
zorroloco
02-Aug-20, 15:03

De-mask-ulation
Love Maureen Dowd

Donald Trump’s warped view of masculinity has warped this nation’s response to a deadly pandemic. And Trump doesn’t even have a diabolical Lady MacTrump whispering in his ear, goading him about being a man. He goads himself, fueled by ghostly memories of his autocratic father.

As the Shakespeare scholar Stephen Greenblatt writes: “The tyrant, Macbeth and other plays suggest, is driven by a range of sexual anxieties: a compulsive need to prove his manhood, dread of impotence, a nagging apprehension that he will not be found sufficiently attractive or powerful, a fear of failure. Hence the penchant for bullying, the vicious misogyny, and the explosive violence. Hence, too, the vulnerability to taunts. Especially those bearing a latent or explicit sexual charge.”

Trump’s fear of emasculation led to his de-mask-ulation. Instead of cleaving to science and reason, he stuck with the old, corny Gordon Gekko routine, putting concern for the stock market above all else.

Like Macbeth, the president made tragic errors of judgment and plunged his country into a nightmare. Our trust in government is depleted, and our relationships in the world are tattered. As Fintan O’Toole wrote in The Irish Times, the world has loved, hated and envied the United States. But never before has it pitied us. Until now.
jonheck
03-Aug-20, 03:06

zorroloco
Strange that such a great athlete with the magnificent bod would be so driven to prove It's masculinity. Our hero could have been a major league pro in almost any sport he chose and likely would have had he not been so driven to achieve academic excellence.
lord_shiva
03-Aug-20, 11:32

LOL
His academic excellence is revealed in every misspelled, ungrammatical Tweet. It was a lot easier for him to pay someone to ace his ACT & SAT than it would be for him to pay someone to hit baseballs out on the field. Especially with those horrible, debilitating bone spurs.

Are you all familiar with low-energy Trump's theory on exercise? A person is born with all the energy they will ever have, and the more they use up wasting on exercise, the less they will carry with them into old age. The sooner they will die. The physically fit people exhaust all their energy running around in their youth, and have none left over for banging porn stars and fornicating with Playboy mistresses later on in life, while their third trophy wife nurses their fifth child.
jonheck
03-Aug-20, 12:14

lord_shiva
Whats the theory on the tie length? It's gotta be about something he thinks makes him appear to be more mach-o. Surely folks have spoken to him about it?! Is it supposed to be pointing to something, or perhaps an attempt to draw us away from his Sponge Bob physique?

I haven't tied one lately, has the in style tie gotten longer in recent years?
lord_shiva
03-Aug-20, 12:21

Tying One On
Apparently so. I was always taught the proper tie length was about half way between naval and crotch, though most of my ties barely reach past my belly button. Personally, belly button length always seemed pretty decent to me. Long enough you knew something was there, but too short to be thrown over a decent load bearing tree branch...


jonheck
03-Aug-20, 12:47

lord_shiva
Imagine your belt where it would have been in your younger days, stand up straight, put the end of the tie within the width of that belt.
lord_shiva
03-Aug-20, 13:15

Precise
Yes, that is about the right location. Though for narrow belt suits that value is trickier to tie.

I saw a photo of some tech guy, possibly Bill Gates, with a tie tied what I thought was a proper length (though not quite belt length), and the commentator (comedian) was calling out the fashion police, insisting he should have split the difference between that and Groper, whose ties are practically knee length.

"GQ says the tip of a man’s tie should fall right in the middle of his waistband or his belt."

When I need fashion advice I may have to consult Jon or his older brother. They always seemed impeccably dressed.
zorroloco
08-Aug-20, 19:38

Important
Researchers created a test to determine which masks are the least effective

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(CNN) — Schools are reopening, amusement parks are welcoming back visitors, and outdoor dining is the new way to eat out. But despite the signs that life is returning back to normal, the coronavirus pandemic has gone nowhere.

That's why a group of researchers at Duke University created a simple technique to analyze the effectiveness of various types of masks which have become a critical component in stopping the spread of the virus.


The quest began when a professor at Duke's School of Medicine was assisting a local group buy masks in bulk to distribute to community members in need. The professor wanted to make sure the group purchased masks that were actually effective.

In the study published Friday, researchers with Duke's physics department demonstrated the use of a simple method that uses a laser beam and cell phone to evaluate the efficiency of masks by studying the transmission of respiratory droplets during regular speech.
A visual aid showing how the laser beam and sheet of light work to capture respiratory droplets.
A visual aid showing how the laser beam and sheet of light work to capture respiratory droplets.
"We use a black box, a laser, and a camera," Martin Fischer, one of the authors of the study, told CNN. "The laser beam is expanded vertically to form a thin sheet of light, which we shine through slits on the left and right of the box."

In the front of the box is a hole where a speaker can talk into it. A cell phone camera is placed on the back of the box to record light that is scattered in all directions by the respiratory droplets that cut through the laser beam when they talk.

A simple computer algorithm then counts the droplets seen in the video.

Encouraging the use of effective masks


Public health experts have spent months emphasizing that masks are one of the most effective tools to help fight the pandemic, and many US states have now introduced some kind of mask requirement.

But when testing their effectiveness, researchers discovered that some masks are quite literally useless.

Researchers tested 14 commonly available masks including a professionally fitted N95 mask, usually reserved for health care workers. First the test was performed with a speaker talking without wearing a mask. Then they did it again while a speaker was wearing a mask. Each mask was tested 10 times.

The most effective mask was the fitted N95. Three-layer surgical masks and cotton masks, which many people have been making at home, also performed well.

The 14 masks used in the test.
The 14 masks used in the test.
Neck fleeces, also called gaiter masks and often used by runners, were the least effective. In fact, wearing a fleece mask resulted in a higher number of respiratory droplets because the material seemed to break down larger droplets into smaller particles that are more easily carried away with air.

Folded bandanas and knitted masks also performed poorly and did not offer much protection.

"We were extremely surprised to find that the number of particles measured with the fleece actually exceeded the number of particles measured without wearing any mask," Fischer said. "We want to emphasize that we really encourage people to wear masks, but we want them to wear masks that actually work."

While the setup of the test is quite simple -- all that is required is a box, a laser for less than $200, one lens, and a cell phone camera -- Fischer does not recommend people to set them up at home.

Unless a person is familiar with laser safety or has optic experience, mishandling powerful lasers can cause permanent eye damage. However, the researchers are hoping companies, museums and community outreach centers will set up the test to show people which masks are the most effective.

"This is a very powerful visual tool to raise awareness that a very simple masks, like these homemade cotton masks, do really well to stop the majority of these respiratory droplets," Fischer said. "Companies and manufacturers can set this up and test their mask designs before producing them, which would also be very useful."
hogfysshe
12-Aug-20, 07:21

some findings re virus in aerosol [NY Times article].
www.msn.com
hogfysshe
28-Aug-20, 18:56

more on airborne/aerosol transmission
time.com
vocihc
16-Sep-20, 10:43

facemask is more guaranteed to protect
NEW: CDC Director Redfield to US Senate cmte.:

“These facemasks are the important, powerful public health tool we have ... I might even go so far as to say that this facemask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine.” t.co
zorroloco
16-Sep-20, 10:51

I started wearing my P100
For the smoke when I work outside. Yesterday I ran my weekly errands wearing g it... I felt SO secure and safe... first time in months I've been around the public and not felt a bit uneasy.

This is, more or less, the one I have.

www.homedepot.com

I'm thinking about wearing it normally for errands. Too much?
zorroloco
16-Sep-20, 11:31

Or this take on masks
The wearing of masks has proven to lessen the spread of covid,” Bard said, referring to covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. “Why don’t you support a mandate for national mask-wearing? Why don’t you wear a mask more often?”

“Well, I do wear them when I have to and when I’m in hospitals and other locations,” Trump said. He’s made this claim before, but, to date, he’s been photographed wearing a mask only on a couple of occasions.

Answer 1: Former vice president Joe Biden didn’t do it either.

“But I will say this: They said at the Democrat convention they’re going to do a national mandate,” Trump said. They never did it because they’ve checked out and they didn’t do it. And a good question is, you ask why Joe Biden — they said, ‘We’re going to do a national mandate on masks.’ ”

“He’s called on all governors to have them,” interjected ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, who moderated the town hall. “There’s a state responsibility.”

“Well, no, but he didn’t do it. I mean, he never did it,” Trump said.


Answer 2: Some people don’t want to wear masks.

Trump then shifted gears.

“Now there is — by the way, a lot of people don’t want to wear masks,” he said. “There are a lot of people think the masks are not good. And there are a lot of people that as an example —”

“Who are those people?” Stephanopoulos asked.

“Well, I’ll tell you who those people are,” Trump replied.

One might have expected Trump at this point to elevate the various groups of people who have protested mask mandates. Embracing those protests would be tricky for Trump, given that he and his team have insisted that he’s following the science on the coronavirus and the science makes clear (as Bard said) that mask-wearing is a critical tool. But at least it would have made sense as a bit of political rhetoric.

Instead, Trump pointed to another group: “Waiters.”

“They come over and they serve you, and they have a mask,” Trump said. “And I saw it the other day where they were serving me. And they’re playing with the mask— I’m not blaming them. I’m just saying what happens. They’re playing with the mask. So the mask is over, and they’re touching it, and then they’re touching the plate. That can’t be good.”

Answer 3: The messaging on masks changed anyway.

“There are a lot of people,” Trump said — “if you look at Dr. Fauci’s original statement, you look at a lot of people, CDC, you look at a lot of people’s original statement. They said very strongly, George, ‘Don’t wear masks.’ Then all of a sudden they went to, ‘Wear masks.’ ”
vocihc
16-Sep-20, 12:22

Waiters, restaurant?
right...
zorroloco
16-Sep-20, 12:35

Voci
Many people. Big important people...

.... are saying
hogfysshe
14-May-21, 19:13

two doctors on masks at this stage of the pandemic...
"We sat outside together to write this article, two fully vaccinated physicians. We showed up wearing masks and looked at each other as we sat down: “Do we take them off now?”"
www.yahoo.com

Gist is that there are reasons to continue with some amount of mask use a bit longer.
zorroloco
14-May-21, 19:41

I’m still wearing it
When around people I don’t know. Case rates are bad in Oregon currently.
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