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zorroloco
14-Jun-19, 17:04

Psychedelics
Anyone tried them? LSD? Mescaline? Psylisibin?

Spiritual experience? Bad trip? Party?

I’ve done substantial amounts of mushrooms and acid. Huxley was right.
rilke
18-Jun-19, 23:10

Edgar Allan Poe was an opium user, and under such circumstances he
wrote the Raven.
zorroloco
19-Jun-19, 06:37

Opium
Is a highly addictive narcotic, not a psychedelic.

Completely different
kewois
27-Sep-20, 10:04

As a songwriter, oddly enough, my influences were people like Bob Dylan,
The Velvet Underground, and Buddy Holly. Some psychedelic stuff, too.

-Ric Ocasek-
obsteve
29-Sep-20, 05:54

I'm a big shroom fan. I've cultivated them myself (cyans and azures), but picking once a year is plenty. Didn't go picking (psilocybes) this year, what with this and that going on, but normally me and the bros go out on the moors for a good day out, etc. Such powerful, long-lasting, life-changing insights from the Teachers.
pawntificator
29-Sep-20, 06:39

Ann Arbor, Michigan apparently just legalized magic mushrooms on the local level.

Salvia divinorum is a remarkable psychedelic, but it's too intense and short-acting for deep insights. LSD has always been my favorite, except that it lasts TOO long. I've heard good things about DMT but I have no idea what that's like.
obsteve
30-Sep-20, 03:59

Salvia
Is awesome. Really worth researching, before you touch it. Look up Daniel Siebert. It needs too humid an atmosphere for me to grow here, though it does grow. You have to approach "the shepherdess" with a question. She gives you an answer. I've had some very interesting insights on Salvia. Sitter advised.
obsteve
28-Oct-20, 17:43

Tonight
Top conversation my daughter about drugs. Listened to her stories about school and the drug culture there. Relieved to find out she knows relatively little about drugs, in spite of. She fessed up to having had a spliff. Sparked me off talking about my drug experiences "in my youth". Was a really fab conversation. I felt like a proper dad.
zorroloco
28-Oct-20, 18:11

Steve
Good on you

Have a puff with her. And introduce her to psychedelics when she’s ready
obsteve
28-Oct-20, 19:12

Nah mate
I scared her right off! Told her all about when I looked in a mirror and thought I was dead!

It was her started talking about a friend of hers, who's dad is in prison for killing his mam. About a bad trip of his, and I told her I wasn't surprised it was a bad trip if he's going through that.

I told her it's all about *Set and Setting*. Right frame of mind, right environment.
zorroloco
29-Oct-20, 07:56

Steve
Set and setting! Exactly,

Have you read

How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence is a 2018 book by Michael Pollan. It became a No. 1 New York Times best-seller.[3]
obsteve
30-Oct-20, 19:08

I have not read this, no, but it feels like I have!
victoriasas
14-Nov-22, 14:55

Marijuana (as far as I know) isn’t a psychedelic, but I thought the link between frequent marijuana use and anger (and even psychosis) to be interesting.

I guess the old adage that marijuana mellows one out isn’t always true.

<<Have you ever experienced angry outbursts after using marijuana or when trying to put a stop to your cannabis habit? Research shows you are not alone.

"Calm, mellow, chill"—those are words many would use to describe the feelings brought on by recreational marijuana use. But some users report experiencing irritability, a short temper, and even rage after smoking weed or consuming edibles.

These feelings can cause some people to lash out at others, sometimes escalating to violence. Anger associated with cannabis use can occur shortly after intake or present as a symptom of marijuana withdrawal. If you have been experiencing symptoms like this, you are not alone.

Can Marijuana Make You More Prone To Anger?

Scott Krakower, DO, Unit Chief of Psychiatry at Zucker Hillside Hospital in Queens, NY, tells WebMD Connect to Care that he has observed anger in some marijuana users, especially those using high-potency cannabis preparations. “Cannabis use can be linked to anger, rage, and aggression in certain individuals,” says Krakower. “It is proposed that alterations in the endocannabinoid system may be the cause of these symptoms."

Researchers from Yale University School of Medicine and the Pennsylvania State University found a correlation between marijuana use and feelings of anger based on a sample of 43 recreational users. The 2015 study asked participants to journal angry feelings and outbursts, showing a 20% increase in hostility on days when subjects used cannabis.

The authors linked chronic marijuana use to changes in the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) region of the brain, which helps to regulate emotional control and reactions to others’ behavior. These changes could lead to a “short fuse” and bursts of anger.

A 2013 study from the University of Buffalo linked the same brain region to aggressive behaviors during marijuana withdrawal in participants with a history of violence. According to Tavis Glassman, Ph.D., Population Health Professor at The University of Toledo, anger and irritability are common after abruptly stopping cannabis.

“When chronic marijuana users go without the drug THC for a specified time — which differs by the individual for a myriad of reasons — they are likely to feel irritable, which may explain anger management issues,” Glassman tells WebMD Connect to Care. “The potency and the frequency of ingestion results in increased tolerance over time, whereby the user needs more of the drug to get high. If the user ingests a weaker strain of marijuana, they may feel ‘off’."

Anger as a side effect of cannabis may be more of a concern with individuals with preexisting mood conditions, such as bipolar disorder, and in people with a specific genetic makeup. In a multi-team DNA study of 118 men, individuals with mutations in the cannabinoid receptor type 1 scored higher on an anger scale after smoking marijuana.

“There may be certain traits which predispose specific individuals to aggression (prior to engaging in any substance use),” Krakower says. “If there is a history (or family history) of mood disorder or psychosis, they should be extra cautious before trying marijuana. Patients should make sure to voice any concerns to their practitioners and review any risks or benefits carefully.”

Get Help Now

Working with your healthcare provider or therapist can be a big help if you have a problem with anger you think may be tied to pot use or medical marijuana. They may recommend lifestyle changes, anger management classes, or individual or group therapy.>>

www.webmd.com




victoriasas
14-Nov-22, 16:05

And this is one article (of many) that talks about mental health problems that can develop from regular and long-term use of marijuana.

<<A lot of people think smoking pot is not very dangerous for teenagers. But research shows that marijuana may be connected to mental health problems, especially disorders that involve psychosis. Starting young, smoking often, and smoking over a long period of time are big risk factors. And if the teen already has a mental health disorder, especially schizophrenia, smoking pot might make it worse.

It may be that young people who are prone to psychotic illness start smoking pot at a young age as a way to feel better. But it’s also possible that smoking pot might trigger a disorder or make it worse. More research is needed for experts to understand these connections more fully.

Some studies show that smoking pot is linked to developing schizophrenia or other disorders that involve psychosis at a young age. That matters because disorders that start early often get worse as the child gets older. And unfortunately, stopping the use of marijuana will not make the disorder go away.

As a parent, the best thing you can do is not to scare or threaten your child but to give them the facts. Tell them that smoking pot once in a while is safer than regular or daily use, which could result in a psychotic illness. It’s also important to note that if they have hallucinations while using pot, that could be a sign that they’re prone to psychosis and should stop smoking. It’s best to have this talk with your child when they are young. That’s because starting to smoke when they’re younger makes them more likely to become addicted. Addiction can also cause serious problems with school performance and their friendships.>>

childmind.org

victoriasas
14-Nov-22, 19:09

Not to belabor this, but apparently there is a link not just between heavy marijuana use and anger, but between heavy marijuana use and mass killings.

Check this out (very surprising.)

<<2.1. Marijuana Violence

On March 13, 2019, Anthony Comello admitted to, and subsequently was charged for, the killing of Frank Cali, a senior leader of the Gambino family in Staten Island, New York. Both men were allegedly having an altercation over Comello’s romantic interest on one of Cali’s relatives. Although Comello had no previous criminal encounters with law enforcement, reports suggest that he drew the attention of authorities by acting strangely in a federal courthouse when he offered to perform a citizen’s arrest on New York City’s Mayor, Bill De Blasio. Previously, Comello sought a U.S. Marshal to inquire how to perform a citizen’s arrest on the United States Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. Comello admitted that, at the time of Cali’s killing, he was high on marijuana and shot Cali because he feared that the senior leader had a gun and would shoot him during their altercation [4,7].

On February 10, 2019, a man killed his 13-year-old nephew with a knife in Rustavi, Georgia. The man had a history of marijuana use. For days leading up to the killing, he was complaining about having dizziness, headaches, general weakness, nausea, and insomnia. He would also occasionally suffer from anxiety, irritability, and loss of appetite. His wife stated that he consumed and was under the influence of marijuana, which made his symptoms worse. The day before the killing, he tried to go to a clinic. However, the clinic rejected treatment by telling him to go to a psychiatric hospital. However, under the influence of drugs, he simply went home hours before killing his nephew [8].

On February 1, 2018, Nikolas Cruz killed 17 students and staff at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and injured 17 others. Cruz was diagnosed as developmentally delayed at age three and had numerous disciplinary issues dating to middle school. From a young age, he started consuming marijuana heavily. He accounts that he would frequently “hear demon voices” and would consume large amount of marijuana to try and silence those voices. He also attempted suicide. During an interview after his mass shooting, he stated that he used “a lot of marijuana” as well as prescription tranquilizer Xanax [9,10].

On November 5, 2017, Devin Patrick Kelley carried out the deadliest mass shooting in Texas’ history, resulting in the death of 27 people and injuries to 20 others, by opening fire at worshippers who were attending regular Sunday Service at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs. Kelley was later shot by bystanders and killed during a high-speed chase with law enforcement agencies. The autopsy on Kelley revealed that toxicology tests detected marijuana and anti-anxiety drugs in his system. A report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation revealed multiple past incidents where Kelley also been under the influence of marijuana. Kelley’s first on-record interaction with law enforcement authorities was when he was arrested for possession of marijuana and, subsequently, expelled from his high school. Since then, the record shows that Kelley started using marijuana frequently, as well as developing mental health issues that would lead him to have problems in his employment with the United States Air Force and multiple instances where he abused his step-son and his wife at the time [11,12].

On May 22, 2017, a suicide bomber, Salaman Abedi, detonated an explosive device in an area of the Manchester Arena, United Kingdom. The blast killed over 20 people and injured over 100 others. Evidence shows that, from a very young age, Abedi was a “party animal” who heavily consumed marijuana. Furthermore, he was described as a person who would start fights in the street for no reason, would act rude, and would refuse to do his homework in school. He was also described as a “very slow, uneducated and passive person” who displayed aggressive tendencies. Eventually, he began shutting himself off from other people, started becoming more violent, and started showing paranoia by making statements against western societies and hanging out with dangerous crowds. Evidence suggests that this paranoia, furthered with aggressive tendencies, led to Abedi’s suicide bombing attack that day [1,13].

On May 18, 2017, Richard Rojas purposely drove a car along three blocks of pavement in New York’s Times Square, killing a teenager and injuring 22 other people. Evidence indicates that Rojas was a heavy marijuana user. He admitted on the consumption of spiced-up marijuana right before committing the attack. Further, the record show that Rojas suffered from paranoia and hallucination, which have led him to make odd statements and partake in actions that negatively affected him in the work place or while interacting with others. Paranoia and hallucination caused him to “hear voices” that led him to commit that attack [2,14].

On November 23, 2016, Arcan Cetin carried out a mass shooting that killed five people and injured many others at the Cascade Mall in Washington. Evidence indicates that Cetin was a heavy marijuana consumer. Further, he had a past of violent behavior, with some incidents including the consumption of marijuana. Although doctors prescribed him medicine for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and other mental health issues such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, anxiety, and depression, he stopped taking the medicine and substituted it with by excessively consuming marijuana. This led to aggravate his mood swings and being more violent. Before the shooting, he had threatened an ex-girlfriend who lived out of state. Evidence indicates that at, while committing the attack, Cetin was shouting a woman’s name [15,16,17].

On July 26, 2016, Satoshi Uematsu stabbed to death at least 19 people and injured at least 26 others at a care facility in Sagamihara, Japan. Months prior the shooting, Uematsu suddenly started talking and acting strangely to his coworkers, who feared he could harm someone. Consequently, Uematsu tested positive for marijuana and was diagnosed with marijuana-induced psychosis and paranoid disorder after he delivered an ominous euthanasia letter to a Japanese House of Representative and telling his co-workers and the police that he intended to kill disabled people. Although he planned the attack in detail, evidence suggests that he later seemed to showed remorse and stated that “There was something wrong with [him]”. These kinds of behaviors suggest that he was suffering from psychosis and paranoia since he was in the delusion that his acts would contribute to the Japanese society and the world [18,19].

On November 27, 2015, Robert Dear killed three people and injured nine others when he carried out a mass shooting in a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs. Dear, along with many other users, moved to Colorado after the state legalized the recreational use of marijuana. Dear was a heavy user who was described by family and friends as “an angry and occasionally violent”, and “deeply disturbed”, individual who suffered from paranoia and mood swings. Moreover, he was described as a lonely religious extremist who had a history of domestic violence against his ex-wives, who gambled, and who committed adultery on multiple occasions. About a year before the shooting, he moved to Colorado where he lived in dire conditions at a squalid trailer without running water or electricity [20,21,22].

On July 16, 2015, Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez killed five people and injured a couple of others in his drive-by shooting at a military recruiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Prone to depression and manic episodes, he started smoking marijuana heavily in high school. This addiction was going on for many years and led his mental state to deteriorate further and cause him to fail a drug test at work. Further, he started writing suicidal notes to himself and was pulled over by a police officer for driving under the influence of marijuana and alcohol. Up until the shooting, evidence indicates that Abdulazeez had a hard time keeping a job because of his manic depressive/bipolar disorder and drug use [23,24].

On June 17, 2015, 21-year-old Dylan Roof murdered nine people who were attending a prayer service in a Church in Charleston, South Carolina. He claimed that his intentions were to start a race war. His acts were preceded by years of drug abuse. Reports reveal that Roof’s drug abuse started when he was 12 years old when he would smoke marijuana three times a day. When he was 16 years old, he tried to stop smoking marijuana after telling people that his daily marijuana usage caused him to be paranoid and hear voices. According to experts, Roof started suffering panic attacks when he was 16. Nonetheless, multiple accounts claim that he kept smoking marijuana and started abusing other drugs and alcohol. During his arrest for the Charleston shooting, Roof told police officers that he abused drugs before committing such heinous act [5,25,26].

On August 9, 2014, Michael Brown was fatally shot after a physical altercation with a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. The autopsy and toxicology report revealed that Michael Brown had THC concentration of marijuana in his blood and urine. He had five nanograms of THC on his system, which causes approximately the same level of impairment as a 0.08 percent of blood alcohol level. That much THC notably impairs someone’s judgment and perception of the surrounding environment, which may lead to anxiety and paranoia. Evidence indicates that Brown tried to reach for the officer’s gun during the altercations, which led to the officer shooting at him in close range. Thus, evidence suggests that Brown’s behavior was most likely caused by paranoia [27,28].

On April 15, 2013, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his brother Tamerlan, killed three people and injured over 250 by detonating homemade pressure cooker bombs near the finish line at the Boston marathon. Both brothers were heavy marijuana users since they were young teenagers. Tamerlan was killed in a police shootout following the bombings and Dzhokhar was eventually apprehended by law enforcement officers. Several acquaintances and friends knew about both brother’s marijuana consumption and sales. One of Dzhokhar friend testified that he sold marijuana to Tsarnaev days before the Boston Marathon Bombings. Unrelated to the bombings, one of Tamerlan’s friends implicated Tsarnaev in the killing of three men whose bodies were found sprinkled with marijuana. Multiple accounts noticed an increase of violent behavior from Dzhokhar for some time leading up to the bombings [29,30,31,32].

On January 8, 2011, Jared Loughner shot and killed six people, while also injuring 14 others at the then-US Representative Gabrielle Giffords’s constituent meeting held in Tucson, Arizona. Although friends and acquaintances described him as an “awkward but friendly” young man, they started noticing his behavior drastically change in college. In high school, Loughner smoked marijuana on most days. Moreover, he also started immersing himself in conspiracy theories displayed paranoia. He dropped out of high school during his final year, but was able to attend a community college. Some college peers described him becoming mentally unstable by saying and doing things that were frightening. Other peers feared that he would do something like what he actually did. He was suspended from college and never returned. Subsequently, he tried to join the army but he was rejected because he failed a drug test. Consequently, he engaged in paranoid behavior that led to him to engage in anti-government speech and target then-Representative Giffords during her constituent meeting [33,34].

These are among the many nationally reported violent cases that have, among others factors, a common root to what led these young people to commit acts of violence at the detriment to society as a whole: the extensive use or abuse of marijuana. In recent years, many States within the United States, as well as some other countries around the world, have decriminalized or legalized the recreational use of marijuana [8,12,13,19]>>

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov




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