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tjbuege
16-Jun-08, 11:44
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Trade Queens
I say we trade queens and see what Rybka has for us.
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ok for me
C.
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QxQ
Queens traded!
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35. Re3 & draw offer?
I think we'll have to play 35. Re3 now. Most probably we will then lose our b-pawn (via ... Ra2-b2-b4), but despite that material disadvantage, we'll be able to block every black challenge on our queen side. At the same time we can't gain anything ourselves. It's probably best to add a draw offer here.
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Annotating
Still observing gents.
Not sure if you guys would like a new thread here or not.
Can someone post the board number so all comments can be collated to annotate?
Thanks,
Oisin
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tjbuege
20-Jun-08, 13:32
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Ra3
Looks indeed like the best option, and a draw offer too. We do lose a pawn either way though, so being a computer, the offer may not be accepted...
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rgold52
26-Jun-08, 17:27
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Missed most of the game!
Why not continue on the king-side with h5, and either hxg6 after Rc3 or h6 if black plays Kf8. Blacks bishop is hemmed in. If you can play Rd2, Bb3 and Rd3 ... the king can swing around to the queen-side and force a trade with an exchange ... what about that?
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Didn't think of that...
But I like it! Did notice black's bishop is useless right now - so I agree, if we can activate our pieces while keeping that bishop inactive, we might be able to get an advantage?
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R to e1
Play this and see if there is an exchange. If so then the computer is playing to draw. Swap the rooks, and we remain even strength with both B's (his and ours) limited in what we can do. Then it is the end game and what pawn strategy works best.
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Titled It Re1 should be Re3
Forgot to change the title. Originally thought Re1 might be a better move.
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good idea
I vote for that
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Next move
I must have missed something. I thought we were still contemplating 35. Re3 versus 35. h5 (rgold52's idea), but apparently White has already played 35. Re3 and Black has replied 36. Ra2. This is the present situation:
Now where do we go from here? I think the choice is between 36. Bd1 and 36. Rc3.
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Bd1
With Bd1 we can still protect our b4 pawn in case of Rb2 with Rb3, while with Rc3 we cannot.
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Bd1 Rd2
But after Bd1, she can play Rd2, attacking our bishop and the d pawn.
I first thought Bb3 will save us, but also that will lead to loss of our d pawn. Ohoh...
We are facing a very difficult endgame now. But of we can block that passed pawn and can keep her bishop locked we can still hope for a draw.
To keep that bishop locked we may not lose our b pawn otherwise the diagonal a6-f1 will be open after a pawn push...
So I vote for Bb3
What do you think?
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Not 36. Bb3, preferably
I wouldn't advise 36. Bb3. After that Black will play 36... Rd2 and not only do we have no way to avoid the loss of our d-pawn but we will lose our b-pawn as well: we cannot defend it with our bishop on b3 (for one thing, we cannot put our rook there) and the bishop is in the way of our rook that desperately needs to go to the a-file for counterplay (notice that the black bishop is defenceless against our rook if we can get it to take control of the a-file). And we don't have time to make a slight detour: 37. Re1 (preparing Ra1-a7) Rxd4 38. Ra1 Rxb4 39. Rxb7 Rxb3 and we're two pawns down without compensation.
Things will be different after 36. Bb1 or 36. Rc3: we may bring our rook to the a-file in time (meaning Black will lose its bishop for a pawn or two) or be able to block black's progress despite the loss of a pawn. I'm not sure which of the two is best, though, so suggestions and analyses are more than welcome ...
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Bb1
I vote for Bb1 forcing her R to move ... Are we now playing for the draw?
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Rc3
Okay,
Since there weren't much analysis, i have chosen to play Rc3.
If black plays Rb2, we can bring our rook to the a file en hope to get some counter play.
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Further analysis needed
Ra3 (after Rb2) is worth considering, but we should have a good look at it first. For example, with Ra3 (followed by Ra7 etc.) we'd be able to capture the black bishop but what's the use if it means we have to give up our own bishop as well, especially as it looks like black will be eating our queenside pawns before we can start consuming his lot. If we can save our bishop and capture his, losing a few pawns may not be all that dramatic. But can we? And, if we can't, what alternatives do we have?
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I totally agree
With hjemcall.. It seems to me that we will be around two moves late..
Well lets see what Rybca plays first..
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