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blueshrimper 18-May-11, 15:03	"Black talk" re move 32 The White Team have moved and this is the current position: My early feeling is Rf8 but I really need to have a good look at this and hopefully come up with a more reasoned suggestion. Loads of time for analysis so please contribute any thoughts you may have
blueshrimper 18-May-11, 15:20	Apologies I screwed up the fen thing and the following is the correct diagram: Which means of course that the Rook is already on f8 so doesn't need moving there. In that case then my early thought is kd8 . Once again, apologies for any inconvenience caused by wrong early diagram.
coopershawk 18-May-11, 20:53	Good! I thought I was having an attack of early Alzheimer's, I had no idea how our Rook got over to d8 and our bishop on a8 look like some kind of reverse miracle.
coopershawk 18-May-11, 21:14	Counter-attack? Unless I am mistaken Kd8 leads to the loss of a pawn one way or another, perhaps like this: 1. ... Kd8 2. g5 Be7 3. gxh6 gxh6 4. Qxh6 So I have been looking for some kind of counter attack that provides a response to the threat against our bishop. Trying e4 without much luck so far.
blueshrimper 18-May-11, 21:37	Difficult Finding a counter attack will be difficult, I think, due to the restricted nature of our pieces. I would gladly accept the loss of a pawn if we were able to improve our defensive position. I'm not yet sure that Kd8 is our best move (the first move I see usually isn't). The thinking behind it was as a stepping stone towards finding a safer home for the King on the opposite side of the board.
coopershawk 19-May-11, 20:16	Rc4? It creates interesting possibilities, but they are more complex than I able to analyze, at least this evening.
aljaru 21-May-11, 03:38	move 32 Ok this is a very dangerous position and if we are not careful we could lose in just a few moves, I Have tried several different moves and I think most of them lose at least 2 pawns or the bishop. But I have come up with a possible line for you all to look at, I am not saying it’s the answer but it’s the best I have found so far, I would welcome your thoughts or please tell me if I have messed up. I am afraid I don’t know how to post the board for you to see , so its notation only. Here are some lines I looked at first …………….. 32. …………………… - Rc4 33. g5 - Bxd4 34. Bxd4 - Rxd4 35. Qxg7+ Or 32. ………… - Kd7 33. g5 - Hxg5 34. Fxg5 - Be7 35. Qxg7 Here is my option, please take a look 32. ……… - e5 33. Fxe5 - Bxe5 34. Dxe5 - Qxe5 Although we still lose the bishop for a pawn I feel it gives us a more playable position. ALJARU (alan)
blueshrimper 23-May-11, 12:07	Alan's idea The above is the board following Alan's suggestion. Please let me know if I have got this wrong I will comment further on this, later this evening, once I have had a chance to play around with it.
blueshrimper 23-May-11, 14:05	White doesn't have to fall in with this plan My argument against this line is that White is not forced into any of these moves. For example, instead of fxe5 White may be tempted to start the process of trapping our Bishop 32. e5 33. g5 hxg5 34. fxg5 Bxg5 35. Qxg5+
blueshrimper 23-May-11, 14:16	I forgot to mention We currently have 3 days 4 hours left on the clock, so voting time will soon be upon us. I still favour Kd8 but I'm not completely sold on it.
ciocionheart 24-May-11, 10:56	I am sorry for not participating, team mates. I barely have time to move in my games. I hope I can cooperate more in the future. Giulio
blueshrimper 24-May-11, 21:25	Less than 2 days to move We need to start deciding on the next move. Mentioned so far: 32. Rc4 32. Kd7 32. e5 32. Kd8 My preferred choice would be 32. Kd8. If there are no posts to indicate other choices, I will play this move tomorrow.
coopershawk 25-May-11, 06:22	Kd8 I will look at it again tonight, but I am wondering why you prefer Kd8 to Kd7? I have been unable to make anything out of either e5 or Rc4.
coopershawk 25-May-11, 20:33	No way out Every option looks bad to me. We may be approaching the game end instead of the endgame.
aljaru 26-May-11, 02:19	Vote I agree all the options look bad with no real chance to try to fight back, I agree that Kd8 is probably the best move but i am certain we are lost unless we can get something going our selves, so we need to come up with a sacrifice somewhere in the next few moves to attack there king, disrupt there plans and totally surprise them or i fear we will just be overwhelmed. MY VOTE ... Kd8

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