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hogfysshe 24-Feb-13, 14:17	sure, convert lean to vote have been hoping that others will chime in. but we can't wait forever.
the-sigularity 24-Feb-13, 18:53	To clarify We have hogfysshe and marathongirl for a5 or Be6 I changed my vote from a5 to Be6 to agree with Pete so that is where I see that that we are at this time, and unless someone else wishes to vote. That's how we stand.
zed2 24-Feb-13, 19:01	I'm happy to go with Be6 If Pete thinks Be6 then who am I to disagree   Let's go for it!
bigpeta 25-Feb-13, 05:28	Be6 I did not advocate Be6. What i did was to correct the analysis being applied after Be6. so let me be quite clear. a5 and Be6 are both good candidate moves. but if any one changed their a5 to Be6 because they thought i recommended it then they were wrong. so last chance to go back to a5 if that really was your best choice until you thought i supported Be6
the-sigularity 25-Feb-13, 09:01	OK Here is my confirmation vote for Be6 I decided on Be6 not only because Pete suggested or advocated the move, but to me it made a lot of sense that Be6 would connect our rooks. Also, if he should decide to exchange B's the f file will open for our rook, unpin our f pawn, and we will have 3 adjacent pawns in the center. But as Pete pointed out he will probably not swap.
zed2 25-Feb-13, 13:23	a5 I will stick with a5
hogfysshe 25-Feb-13, 15:38	confirming 16. ...Be6 as mentioned, curious. have to admit I wouldn't mind our B safely on one of those long diagonals pointing toward Ion's king though.
bigpeta 26-Feb-13, 14:48	playing Be6 remember in future i do not recommend moves. I only steer you away from incorrect analysis
the-sigularity 26-Feb-13, 17:29	OK Pete Thanks for steering us in the correct direction.
efc8 02-Mar-13, 13:27	New Vote Game I was lost and Stealth helped me to find my way. I don't have much time to analyze the Be6 an pa5 moves, but at a glance what about Rd8 to give the K an escape route if necessary and face the Black Q on the d file
efc8 03-Mar-13, 03:34	New vote game Rd8 also defend the pawn at d6
the-sigularity 03-Mar-13, 04:46	Rd8 As I see it is not a bad move. Good going efc
efc8 03-Mar-13, 15:41	New Vote Game Another good looking move is ...........Ngf6 attacking e4, a square white seems to have a problem defending. At f6 the N is better placed since it cannot capture white's pinned N which is protected by the B that will drive our Queen from the diagonal. I vote for Ngf6
bigpeta 04-Mar-13, 01:17	Move 17 Board Position Latest moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.Be3 Nc6 8.Nc3 h6 9.f4 exf4 10.Bxf4 d6 11.Nd5 0-0 12.Bxh6 Ng4 13.Bf4 Nce5 14.Bb3 c6 15.Ne3 Qb6 16.Qd2 Be6 17.h3
zed2 04-Mar-13, 01:29	Ng4 x Ne3 This will be followed no doubt by Bf4 x Ne3 then we can counter with c5
the-sigularity 04-Mar-13, 12:05	Deleted by the-sigularity on 04-Mar-13, 12:23.
the-sigularity 04-Mar-13, 12:23	Correction Post My last vote 17....f6 Intended to be 17.h3.........Nf6(forced to save our N) Also threatens NXe4 which would protect our d6 pawn and force Q to move
zed2 04-Mar-13, 13:01	if Nf6 then Qxd6? Would Nf6 put our pawn on the d file in peril?
the-sigularity 04-Mar-13, 13:48	Deleted by the-sigularity on 04-Mar-13, 13:58.
zed2 05-Mar-13, 14:54	Hey Team Any more suggestions?
hogfysshe 05-Mar-13, 15:00	at the moment I agree with marathongirl's concern and think she puts forward an interesting candidate. since stealth coaxed edward to chime in a bit, I'm not rushing at all this move and am waiting at least a few more days before voting. much better when more people participate. haven't looked too closely at the current position other than to be able to comment as above.
zed2 05-Mar-13, 15:07	Thanks hf THanks for your comments and reasons for holding back to encourage others but I think the more conversation we have the better and hopefully this will rally the troops to become involved.
hogfysshe 05-Mar-13, 15:30	well it's a theory we were having a lot of conversation and people left. so I don't know what to think. either way, for various reasons, I'm still slow in vote games. not a skilled rally-er I don't think. will do my best not to be too slow. contribution for now is: stealth, there are things about Nf6 I like. But what happens if white plays Qxd6 in response? we'd have two pieces being attacked twice each. Then if we play, ...Nxe4, we go to -3 with his Qxe5. moving the N on e5 instead of capturing the pawn is only slightly less bad (leading to trading B+P for B ). but I may be missing something.
zed2 05-Mar-13, 15:43	Ng4xNe3 @ hogfysshe Thanks for your input It can be a bit hard working through the thread of optional moves which others put up but in the end we all learn which is what it is about. I didn't like to comment when I first went on as I thought "well, what do I know?" but it isn't about who is better than who but improving which we do eventually. I'm going to stick N x N for the reasons canvased above.
hogfysshe 05-Mar-13, 17:11	that's the leading candidate... ...for me also.
bigpeta 05-Mar-13, 17:17	a thought what happens to our K defenses if he is allowed to play Bxe6 and we have to recapture with fxe6. just a thought to get you thinking on an alternative track. Note this is not a recommendation merely a thought to be considered.
efc8 05-Mar-13, 17:32	New Vote Game Marathongirl, .............Nf6 Qxd6 winning the pawn. I prefer .............Nxe3 Bxe3......c5 to defend the pawn with the Q
zed2 05-Mar-13, 17:33	@ Pete 1. ... Nc4 he can't take with his pinned N so must take with B or he will lose his Q 2. Bxc4 Bxc4 then is R is threatened
efc8 05-Mar-13, 17:47	New Vote Game Marathongirl, I like that Nc4 to preserve the p at f7 Bxc4........Bxc4 Rhf1........Nxe3 Bxe3.......c5 defending the d6 pawn
zed2 05-Mar-13, 17:58	Nc4 I suspect he would move his threatened N to e1 to protect his N I was a bit confused with Rhf1 as his Rook is already on f1?
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