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efc8 06-Dec-12, 16:59	New vote game Well, I looked at f4.........exf Bxf.......d6 e5.......de Qe1 and don't like how it looks
the-sigularity 07-Dec-12, 23:32	VOTE 9.....0-0 I think it's time to bring our K to a safer place at this point. If fxe5 Nxe5, and we still have the pawn+ I do not think he will advance the pawn to f5 And we can do our d6 next depending on his next move. Also Pete said we should castle within the first 10 moves, and this is within that allotted time.
bigpeta 08-Dec-12, 01:31	exf @efc8 your analysis Well, I looked at f4.........exf Bxf.......d6 e5....... would be very wrong for white he is more likely to play Nd5 at which point the game is pretty even So there is no need to fear exf
efc8 08-Dec-12, 11:26	New vote game Pete, I was looking at e5......dxe Qe1...0-0
bigpeta 08-Dec-12, 11:32	exf @ecf8 yes i know what you were looking at and my post said that white would not play e5 as it was a loser for him.
kepplersteve 09-Dec-12, 09:04	0-0 I believe this would be a good time to Castle
hogfysshe 09-Dec-12, 09:49	re 9. ...0-0 before we decide if this is best, we need to decide if we want to allow the possibility of 10. f5, which would look like this, ...not that he would necessarily play that. this may be our only chance to easily eliminate that f pawn, ...not that I'm suggesting 9. ...exf4, though it should certainly be considered.
the-sigularity 09-Dec-12, 11:26	OK If he advances his f5 this move will hinder his progress, and impede his aggressiveness. Not a move to be expected by a master, however if he underestimates our ability to counter, he may do so, just to play cat and mouse, but very unlikely. I believe a better move for ion would be more like Nd5 to force a N swap and enhance his control of the g file for his Q attack. But as you say, it is only something to contemplate, and not necessarily an eminent turn of events. At any rate, we should 0-0 and then decide what our next move should be, unless there is some other more substantial suggestion.
bigpeta 09-Dec-12, 15:33	move 9 0-0 if you do play 0-0 then he will have the option to play f5 or Nd5 but i think he may prefer f5
efc8 09-Dec-12, 15:52	New vote game In castling, I would prefer the Queen side if we choose to allow the advancing of the f pawn which will cramp our King side
bigpeta 09-Dec-12, 16:40	castling @efc8 - please refer to my earlier post about the complexities of castling on the opposite side to white. and you can always stop f5 with exf
efc8 10-Dec-12, 11:18	New vote game I vote exf to stop f5
hogfysshe 10-Dec-12, 19:35	voting for 9. ...exf4 also I agree with stealth-invader that opening that file and diagonal may help Ion in some ways. but I don't mind breaking up that pair of pawns. and guaranteeing our B access to more of the h3-c8 diagonal may be a good idea.
the-sigularity 10-Dec-12, 21:54	Yes 5......exf4 is my vote also It makes more sense to break up the pawns and solidify our defense in that way. hogfysshe has made a very good point.
the-sigularity 12-Dec-12, 07:49	5 votes to stop f5 efc8 voted exf to stop f5 hogfysshe voted exf4 stealth-invader voted exf4 It appears we have 3 votes for 9...exf4. Question: Are these enough votes to proceed, or should we wait for another vote?
bigpeta 12-Dec-12, 08:03	next move julio - please stop trying to push the game along. I will play the next move when i am satisfied that everyone has had a chance to input. it is only 3 days since i posted the last move from Ion
fr1ar 12-Dec-12, 15:06	exf4 I see f5 as a very real threat, I vote exf4 also
the-sigularity 12-Dec-12, 21:06	An Apology` @Pete; sorry about trying to push the game along, I will refrain from this type of interjection in the future.
bigpeta 15-Dec-12, 06:40	exf4 has the most votes so playing that move
efc8 19-Dec-12, 00:11	New vote game After exf White can play f4...........exf Bxp.........0-0 e5..........N have to reverse f4...........exf e5..........fxe exf.........gxf Qh5........Rf8 Re1 Black's position doesn't look good to me
bigpeta 19-Dec-12, 01:21	Move 10 Board Position Latest moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d4 Bxd4 6.Nxd4 Nxd4 7.Be3 Nc6 8.Nc3 h6 9.f4 exf4 10.Bxf4
hogfysshe 19-Dec-12, 06:10	voting 10. ...d6 several reasons for this choice, ...further setting up of a stable foundation (hopefully allowing us to develop some offense). but I am open to being persuaded to switch if anyone finds a better option.
bigpeta 19-Dec-12, 08:05	guidelines just a reminder that the guidelines i give are not rules set in stone.
kepplersteve 21-Dec-12, 15:10	I go along with d6 To open the bishop diagonal.
efc8 23-Dec-12, 04:05	New vote game d6 looks like the only decent move we have
the-sigularity 23-Dec-12, 15:31	Vote for 10....d6 10......d6 will parry 11.e5 and with that move we may have to trade Qs and castling, but at this state of the game, it appears to me this may be our only move that we have to stabilize for the moment at least. Perhaps someone else can come up with a brilliant recovery from this situation
efc8 25-Dec-12, 04:55	New vote game d6 is a must, after that hell could break loose.
efc8 27-Dec-12, 21:29	New vote game Let us look at Bxf4.......0-0 e5.........Ne8 controlling g7, f6, d6 & c7
fr1ar 28-Dec-12, 16:03	vote for d6 to reiterate whats been said, d6 to prevent e5 and open the light bishops diagonal. I think we are looking very good in this game. White does have space advantage but the force is to concentrated on the center, especially on d5, 4 pieces looking at that square. And that has weekend his kingside, also he now has 3 pawn islands. My plan would be to use the natural flow of the light bishop and queen towards a kingside attack and drive our queenside pawn island as far forward as possible to retard his pawn development, setting our extra pawn up with a little more advantage at end game.
bigpeta 28-Dec-12, 16:19	i will vote d6 in the new year after the holiday is over. good analysis guys keep it up.
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