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bigpeta
12-May-13, 08:51

MT game annotations
This is the central thread in which to discuss post game annotations from the Mini Tournament.
snowman100
15-May-13, 15:08

Deleted by snowman100 on 16-May-13, 00:37.
snowman100
16-May-13, 05:16

Annotation
Game against the Big P.
This is the first time I have tried to annotate a game so be ruthless with me I want to learn!
Pete demolished me in extremely short order..I didn't seem to put up any resistance! I don't know how it happened. I saw most of what he was doing but felt powerless to stop it!
The Snowman
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bigpeta
16-May-13, 07:22

Deleted by bigpeta on 16-May-13, 12:53.
bigpeta
16-May-13, 12:53

a direct link to snowmans annotated game
best way to get this link is to open the annotation and copy the url from the address bar.
will hold off to give others a chance to comment before wading in.
well done snowman for a good and quick annotation post.

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bigpeta
17-May-13, 07:21

Commenst are not notified
so if you do add a comment to a game can you please note the fact and game here so that others know there is a comment to read.
hogfysshe
17-May-13, 15:30

comment added - and a monitoring system
I made one comment on the bigpeta-snowman game. but I've only read though about 5 moves. very busy. may add more over the weekend.

to see if there are any new comments, I have a two click system.

1) click on snowman's profile snowman100 and then
2) I click on his "Annotated games" (just above his "real name") gameknot.com

Then look to the right of the screen to see the number of comments.
bigpeta
18-May-13, 04:09

two click system
is fine with just 1 or 2 games to check but if we get many, as i hope we will, then it becomes a little tedious.
hogfysshe
18-May-13, 06:08

more comments added to Snowman's annotation
bigpeta-snowman game... gameknot.com

Have now reviewed the whole game and added comments. Good job getting things underway snowman.
bigpeta
18-May-13, 07:15

thank you
todd. good insights there.
now how about the rest of the gang joining in with the learning process.
snowman100
20-May-13, 15:21

Snowman melted by Ion in 14 moves!
This was even shorter (I think) than my thrashing by the Big P!

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This is the link if you paste into the address bar. Sorry...I can't seem to get a clicky link that has the gameknot icon... can you tell me how to do it again please?

bigpeta
20-May-13, 16:56

link to annotation for snowman vs ion
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snowman100
21-May-13, 01:17

Some comments regarding Snowman's swift resignation against Ion.
Perhaps I was a little premature in resigning against Ion I thought I had lost lots of material Here are some notes that ping-ponged back and forth after the game.

ionadowman: I was a bit surprised the previous game ended so abruptly... I knew I was winning a pawn, but it seemed there were additional endgame advantages in the offing... Might have to look into that.
Meanwhile, the English Opening used to be my long-time favorite in OTB play. My record with it hasn't been brilliant on GK, but I still give it an occasional outing.

Snowman: After the last move you just had to push d4 forking my Queen and knight and opening up a discovered attack on my Bishop which then threatened my rook as well. It all bust apart!

Snowman: Oh yes. Looking back over it I can come out of it only a pawn down...That's strange I thought I was losing masses of material!
bigpeta
24-May-13, 09:20

Added my comments to my game with Snowman
There was a mistake which is a subject for separate discussion ie allowing the B to be removed from the fianchetto.
I will open a new thread for this to be discussed as i feel it is very important.
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snowman100
24-May-13, 09:42

Thanks for all the comments
Thanks for all comments on game with Big P.....I think I've picked up several useful tips there
bigpeta
27-May-13, 05:30

Annotation of game Bigpeta vs efc8
A game with some valuable lessons about watching the whole board
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archduke_piccolo
01-Jun-13, 00:54

Deleted by archduke_piccolo on 01-Jun-13, 00:56.
archduke_piccolo
01-Jun-13, 00:56

Another annotated game
This one ionadowman vs efc8
The Knight fork is very much a feature of this game.
Incidentally, a species of fork appears with one of the tines impaling an empty square. To see what that means, check out the game.
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Cheers,
Ion
bigpeta
01-Jun-13, 08:10

Added comments
to ionadowman vs efc8 game
snowman100
01-Jun-13, 08:36

Don't be disheartened
Don't be disheartened efc8, you lasted longer than me in my games against the two pro's!
archduke_piccolo
01-Jun-13, 16:32

Further added comments...
I've added extra comments (qua comments) some of which are in response to bigpeta's remarks, plus other enlargements upon the notes. I've also made some corrections to the notes themselves.

I believe there are a number of things efc8 can take away from this game.
First of all, the choice of opening. Nothing wrong with that, and had he continued his plan ...f6;...fxe5 to free his game, would have stayed on level terms a lot longer. My own response to 7...f6 (8.c4) was provocative, but probably inferior to 8.Nh4.

The 'fork' motif. I guess you can't always be on the look-out for possible forks, but it is not a bad idea to be aware of the placings of particularly the major pieces in relation to each other with the view to recognising threats before they materialise. The well known relationships between King and Queen's Rook; and Queen and King's Rook is something beginners learn early (though surprisingly often, still overlook). A lot of their early planning seeks to exploit those spatial relationships.

As it happened, the knight fork on c7 cropped up before Black could do much about it, but 14.Bf4 was a deliberate attempt to lure the Queen onto a square where the K-Q fork was possible (Note that 14.Bd4 Qxd4?? 15.Qxd4 was never going to happen). This sort of thing, playing in the 'hope' of the opponent making a mistake is generally frown upon, simply because, if the enemy sees through it, the whole scheme can blow up in your face.

There are two circumstances in which such 'trappy' play can be justified. One is that your game is not compromised thereby. In playing as I did, I gave away none of the large advantage I enjoyed. All it did was add the possibility of a quick ending.

The other justifying circumstance is desperation. When things have already gone wrong and you are facing defeat, a last ditch trap - provided it is subtle enough - might yet turn the tables. GM Frank Marshall used to call these situations 'Swindles', and he was the master of them.
archduke_piccolo
01-Jun-13, 16:52

More on Knight forks...
To illustrate what I mean about the spatial relations between pieces and the possibility of double attacks (forks), here's something from a recent game from the Walking the Walk; Learning to Run Club. After White's 15th move, this position was reached:
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Possibly concerned about the White Queen bearing down the a2-g8 diagonal towards his King, Black ducked out from under:

15...Kh8!?
Now, immediately I was acutely aware of the Knight-fork potential in the placement of Black's King and Queen. Observe that both White Knights are within 2 moves of f7. Two moves! Sure, Black could move his Queen at any time. Can't he? Well...

16.Nfe5 Nxe5
17.Nxe5 ...
Threatening the fork already. But there are all sorts of threats going down. Black has to come up with some tall defence, and moving the Queen won't cut it (the rook on d7 being attacked also).

17... Be6!
Not hard to find, but in its way, very effective,

18.Bc4! Rde7
19.Bxe6 fxe7
Of course, he couldn't retake with the rook. So far Black hasn't been given time to alter the K-Q relationship, and the menace to f7 continues, but he has successfully held White's first assault upon f7.

20.f4...

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archduke_piccolo
01-Jun-13, 18:01

Swindles...
A 'Swindle' in chess is one of those situations in which the defender in a losing game plays a desperate move that offers the opponent a plausible way of going wrong. It can be one of those situations that S. Tartakower was thinking of when he observed: 'Sometimes the second best move is the best move!'

First of all, a story. I was just a few weeks in the big city (Auckland), only just turned 18 (this was 1969), and playing in some sort of team match at the Auckland Chess Centre. I was matched up with the Black pieces against a guy we'll call S.B. I was warned about him. Not that it did any good. He sneered his way through the opening, and continued sneering until we got to the late middle game. By this time he insisted that according to some rule (of his own invention) I ought to have done the right thing and resigned.

It is true, my game was in a bad way, and at last came the point in which I had two pieces 'en prise' and no way to defend them both. Busted. No question about it.

But in desperation, I found one possibility that offered hope: I placed a third piece 'en prise.' Now, before you object, there was a bit more to it than gratuitously shoving a third piece into the fires of Moloch in the hope he would choose the wrong one. What I had done was offered White a very good and plausible way of going wrong, with the idea that with the wrong 'take' I would win the game.

That's what happened. Two of the three captures was wrong: the new one (from memory) and one of the others. He played the wrong capture, I played my winning line and within a couple of moves he saw that all was up. Whingeing that morally he had won the game and by rights I ought to have resigned etc etc, moan, grizzle, he stalked off to claim the draw to the organisers. Not knowing what to do about it (he deserved a fist through the teeth, the snurge, but that would not have gone down well, and he was bigger than I was anyhow) I let it go. It was only a 'pick-up' event after all. I would like to think maybe that incident wrecked his chess playing career. I never ever saw that twerp again.

But here, from a club game in Wellington thirteen years later, is an example of a classic 'Marshall Swindle.' After 27 moves of indifferent play on my part, we had reached this position from a Sicilian Dragon:
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None too flash for White (me) eh? Three connected passed pawn about to get rolling - in theory, I'm a smear on the ground.

Before continuing, I ought to mention I had already tried a swindle, 9 moves earlier, with a Knight sacrifice. It was a bit too obvious, Black spurned the sac (he took with a piece instead of a pawn, turning it into an exchange of pieces), and maintained his very considerable advantage.

At the diagram point in the game I began by considering 28.Re4 with the view to sliding the rook over to the c-file and thence to c7. The down side to that plan was, of course, 28...Ng3, forking the two rooks. About to look around for something else to do - resignation was close to the top of the list of options, by this time - I was suddenly struck by an extraordinary idea...

28.Re4! ...
Still with the idea of Rc4 to follow...

28...Ng3?
And this was the hoped-for response. I had discovered that I really did want Black to play this.

29.Qg5!! ...
That was the vision. White has now left three pieces 'en prise', but whichever Black takes, White secures at least a draw!

[A] 29...Nxf1?? actually lost for Black: 30.Qf6ch Kg8 (the alternatives lost even more quickly) 31.Ne7ch Kf8 32.Nxg6ch and mate next move.

[B] 29...Qxd5!? At the time I thought this also won for White, but in fact it doesn't quite:
30.Qf6ch Kh7! (...Kh6? does lose) 31.Rh4ch! Nh5 32.Rxh5ch gxh5 33.Qf5ch Kh6 (a King move to the g-file gets axed by 34.Qg5ch!) 34.Qf6ch and a perpetual.

[C] Black cut to the chase with this:
29...Nxe4 It looks as though White might be stymied, with the Queen and Knight both 'en prise', but the breakthrough comes when for the second time, White places all his pieces under attack!

30.Rxf7ch! Kxf7 31.Qe7ch Kg8 32.Qxd8ch Kf7 ...
It is clear White has a perpetual along the h4-d8 diagonal that Black can not escape. Black tries a little swindle of his own.

33.Qe7ch ...
Nothing doing. 33...Qxh8 would have been downright stupid in the circumstances. At this point the game was agreed drawn, rather than play out the perpetual.

Many years later, I discovered that Black might have been able to maintain a marginal edge by refusing to take any of the three offered pieces!

29...Rd7!
Aye, well...
bigpeta
02-Jun-13, 10:41

A good balance
As most of you know i am not a great one for deep theory, I get by with some that i need to know. I prefer to concentrate on the basics and setting a solid base to play from.
So it is really good to have in depth theory from Ion. This i feel makes a good complement to my analysis in basic terms. So using both together you should get a fuller picture of any particular position.
Keep up the good work Ion and thank you.
snowman100
02-Jun-13, 15:22

More on Knight forks and ..swindles.
Thanks Ion for going to all the trouble to give insights into these two positions and ideas. Really awesome and helpful.

Haven't had time to look at extra comments in game yet but have found your initial comments and Petes helpful..will have another look tomorrow..time to call it a knight...sorry night!
archduke_piccolo
02-Jun-13, 16:37

Thanks for the feedback -
The sorts of discussions above I quite enjoy getting into. Particular situations can illustrate broader perspectives. I have to admit, though, I'm reaching the age at which 'talking chess' I find more enjoyable than 'playing chess.'

Pete and I have I think fairly contrasting styles and different perspectives. The one will point out things the other might tend to overlook.

At any rate I hope club members will gain from any contributions I can make here.
hogfysshe
02-Jun-13, 17:07

seconding thanks
Ion, over the past several years, your posts and comments have helped me tremendously. Great you are here. Always a big help when an expert shares perspective and examples on a theme or concept. we might have some amount of familiarity with a subject. but in this game, the depths of what can be known are endless. always looking forward to your contributions.

wonderful to have complementary viewpoints of two master players being shared with the club!
bigpeta
03-Jun-13, 14:52

Bigpeta vs RJFSmith
Annotation here
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archduke_piccolo
03-Jun-13, 22:05

Deleted by archduke_piccolo on 03-Jun-13, 22:06.
rjfsmith
04-Jun-13, 15:01

Big petavsRJFSMith
Have added some comments for what they are worth. Would be interested in comments on my thought processes
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