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lord_shiva
17-Aug-16, 17:37

Games

I know there must be historical games on here--I would like to see the Brisbane Bombshell, game #16 between Kasparaov and Karpov. How do I find these?

lord_shiva
17-Aug-16, 17:48

Brisbane Bombshell

I found it here:

gameknot.com

But from outside GK.

yon_cassius
18-Aug-16, 02:40

Historical Games

If you know the moves you could try using the Game DB (toggle it to World).

Nick

lord_shiva
09-Mar-17, 18:42

What is the Longest Game

on Gameknot?

brigadecommander
18-Mar-17, 00:41

here are a few historical games.

Superb,Beautiful Chess;<iframe width="560" height="315" src="www.youtube.com" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> And this one is the essence of Chess. ;<iframe width="560" height="315" src="www.youtube.com" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

lord_shiva
17-Jan-18, 16:54

Game with Most Moves

I think there is a longer game than this one on GK--I'd like to see it.

game

garos
17-Jan-18, 20:12

Well

It could have ended much earlier due to three-fold repetition.

Not sure what the point of all that would be.

garos
17-Jan-18, 20:18

Right back at move 137, it seems.

deeper_insight
18-Jan-18, 07:39

Deleted by deeper_insight on 18-Jan-18, 08:02.

deeper_insight
18-Jan-18, 08:02

Just taking a brief look at this ridiculously long game,yes,it could have ended long before move 728.I did not even take a look at 3 fold reps to figure that one out.The 50 move rule was in place a long time before move # 728....where no piece capture and no pawn moves were made on either side.Even going back 100 moves,to move #628 to the end,there were no piece captures and no pawn moves.So it easy to figure out that no one cared to click that "declare draw"button below the game board.

Its just a guess,and I could be wrong,but this game may simply be a form of denial,pride and a bit of ignorance thrown in due to black being "up" 2 pawns and then probably refusing to accept a draw out of piece advantage "pride".It is possible that white may have asked for a draw,but did not "declare"a draw for lack of knowledge about the 50 move rule,or perhaps the GK system did not work properly identifying the 50 move scenario.The only way to know for sure is ask one or both players.The other possibility,of course,is that both players wanted to simply make a"statement" as an attempt to develop the longest game in GK history...just for the fun of it.

Not sure which.But the black piece player is the president of the Washington Chess Federation and Captain of the Seattle Sluggers - 2012 US Chess League Champions.So,i'm certain that he knew it was a draw LONG BEFORE move #728.The only other possibility that I can think of right now(that the game extended to that length)is to give a "lesson"to one or the other player.That lesson is...."well,if your not going click on that declare draw button,like you should,I will play on until you finally figure it out to teach you that lesson for this game and the next game".It is a form of stubbornness with one or both players.Not saying for sure that this is the case,but I have observed that behavior in the past.So we have all kinds of possibilities.

archduke_piccolo
20-Jan-18, 22:32

The donkarlas - original sin game...

... simply repeats moves for the last 600... At that the game could have been abandoned as a draw much earlier than move 127...

I have one 100+ move game, several years ago, that I thought of highly enough to annotate it. Apart from maybe a dozen moves in the middle I thought it exciting enough.

This year I thought one of my games would go well into the 100+ range - a King-bishop-knight vs lone King ending. But my in opting to keep his a-pawn, (a K+B+N vs K+P ending) my opponent allowed a forced mate that would have ended the game at about move 96 or 97. That was a pretty tight struggle, that game! I also annotated that one.

Of course, neither even approach the record.

There was an attempt to create a record on GK some while back that I think got past the 2000 moves. As you can imagine, it is not very interesting except insofar as it got to where it did.

deeper_insight
21-Jan-18, 06:07

Yes,I did not even bother to check hundreds of moves back in that 728 game.I went from the last move backwards about a hundred moves and simply gave up with a scoff.Actually,it is easy to set a long game record on GK with an agreeing opponent,perhaps in an unrated game,so no one loses points for a draw.You could take a Petrov,for example which is notorious for draw rates and then at some late midgame point,agree to not capture and make no pawn moves.I am sure I could go to move 5,000 and set a huge record,maybe world record.But I see no logic in that,and time consumption is not my cup of tea right now.Maybe having some weird strange fun,but I see no real sense in doing that,unless it was simply to make a statement.

myrydin
21-Jan-18, 07:47

I would only be interested if the game was extraordinarily long because it was a heck of a a battle rather than because of an intention to create a record.

deeper_insight
21-Jan-18, 08:19

Deleted by deeper_insight on 21-Jan-18, 08:28.

deeper_insight
21-Jan-18, 08:27

Good point myrydin,I agree with you.However,in the game above and perhaps most other games that exceed ridiculously long moves like 728,it really is so overly redundant and obvious that the "battle" was OVER long before move 100.Then its just a form of toying around moving Q's redundantly like they did in that game.No challenge,no real battle.And I analyzed the game even around move 68-69 ect,and there was no real significant battle going on to make much mention of.I would have pressed that "declare draw" button a long time ago in that game.I cannot see why donkarlos did not do that.He was down 2 pawns,so it was to his advantage to declare the draw.You never know when its your turn and something happens unexpectedly and a time-out could occur.

Maybe I will start an unrated game in the future and go to move 10,000 with an agreeable opponent.Then you guys can bring up that game 30 years from now and chat about it in the forums,long after I am pushing up daisies.I'm sure some dude will comment..."only an idiot would play to those lengths".Ha ha.And that dude would probably be correct.But then,the
Guinness Book Of World Records is full of frivolous records that many could care less about and some that are cared about,so its all relative.You do it because its there for the doing!

archduke_piccolo
21-Jan-18, 08:36

Epic 100-move battles...

Check out D. Bronstein vs O. Panno, Petropolis Interzonal, 1973.
After the game GM Bronstein reckoned you could write a book on that one game.

myrydin
21-Jan-18, 09:19

Quite, DI, each to their own, eh?

I think I found your game, Archduke, I’ll check it out. I may be some time..

www.chessgames.com

lord_shiva
25-Apr-18, 11:24

Longest Legit GK Game 276 Moves

game

While I've seen longer games, they could have been declared drawn much earlier--and were games played by players experienced enough to know.

I have not examined this game carefully, but it would be interesting to see if there were longer legitimate games. I saw one, once, that went on more than a thousand moves--but it was mostly just a rook and king versus rook, and the players clearly had no idea what they were doing.

lord_shiva
16-Jan-20, 13:28

Flipping the Board

game references a particular game, but is there a way to make this come up automatically already flipped (for the perspective of black)?

lord_shiva
15-Jan-23, 11:41

ArchDuke

Would you mind posting the link to your 100+ move annotated game?

archduke_piccolo
15-Jan-23, 12:28

@lord_shiva

Sure: here it is...
The game began with the Great Snake Opening. I had the Black pieces.
gameknot.com
Cheers!
Ion

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