GameKnot: GameKnot related, How do you use your notes?

GameKnot related: How do you use your notes?

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black_cat_hamlet
27-May-10, 01:41

How do you use your notes?

If you do use it, of course With me, I just write out my own thoughts on the position and what I want to play... it helps me understand the position a bit more and my thoughts become clearer when I write them down

How about you?

myrydin
27-May-10, 02:07

I use the 'analyse the board' function and then copy and paste potential lines into the notes section.

ganstaman
27-May-10, 10:52

I often put analysis in there, try to make it some sort of tree of variations. That way, when I look at the game again later, I know what I've already looked at so I don't repeat my work and can see what lines are left to go over. Plus, it helps as I already have some ideas written down as we move further down any of those lines.

Rarely, I'll see some sort of thematic move or combo that won't be played right now, but I want to make sure I keep in mind for the future.

Also, if there's a key game that I know we're following, I'll keep a link to it in my notes so I can more easily reference it as we move through the opening.

chessnovice
29-May-10, 11:34

I used to use it more before the conditional moves were set up.

baronderkilt
29-May-10, 16:11

Never trust em ...

I dont know if todays not is good, or yesterdays!

tugger
30-May-10, 11:26

Like myrydin, I tend to copy/paste move lists from the analysis board, but sometimes I'll make a text note about certain dangers, traps, or weaknesses for either player.

As chessnovice points out, conditional moves mean that often notes are not needed; for example, if the danger I have to watch out for is just one move ahead, well, I might as well punch in a conditional in case he plays the danger move, rather than make a note telling me to play it.

The majority of my games have no notes, it's just the ones that are tactical and tight that I need more focus on that tend to get notes.

tactical_abyss
30-May-10, 11:40

Alot of my notes contain players names as a reminder to myself never to play that opponent for various reasons OR some that I will play in the future after I analyzed some of their past games.Then I make a note to myself where they went wrong in certain openings or mid game positions and attempt to later recreate the same scenario(or near scenario) again for the edge,or win.You would be surprised at how many players,even over 2100 that "repeat"the same tactical error,even with a personal GK database(which they may not even check)....or they simply do not know how to proceed in certain tactical positions.Then my "abyss"opens up and they fall in!
Notes,I love them,but I really wonder if someone reads them once in a while besides myself...if you know what I mean?!

markb56
30-May-10, 14:04

Hi TA, yes, I do read your game notes once in a while. But first I try to study the position so as to develop my analytical skills before I peek at the answers. If you want to know how it's done, click on the player's third move and then type: !@#$%^&*(). I have found that most players rarely have any meaningful analyses prior to the third move.

tactical_abyss
30-May-10, 16:24

You know,sometimes I wish there was no such thing as opening database's and more and we should all be forced to play(atleast for a year or so)any and all openings that move "out of book"almost immediately or within a few moves or so.In reality,most of us are simply playing someones elses game with no true originality or self creative tactics,atleast for 25 moves or more(many times).I find this somewhat unspectacular in many chess arenas.
I usually never admit this,but I actually prefer somewhat weaker "riskier" type openings that have a notoriously higher probabilty of moving out of book quickly.Then to me,this is more appropriately a "true"slug fest of tactics in unfamiliar "murky waters" between the two opponents.Someone may,for example,be better at (or have better memory or records at some opening Ruy Lopez line),and gain an "edge"in the opening,but is that player,even if he wins,truly a superior player?In my book,not necessarily!
That is why as white I love the Trompowsky which moves into uncharted waters many times or the Sokolsky which can have similar tactics that move out of the known lines quickly.
As Black,my actual favorite opening against 1.e4 is .....g5,the Basman Defense.While weaker than a "boring"2000 year old Ruy Lopez line response or a Sicilian response,it has special value to me that creates tactical and other positional patterns on the board that few players ever come across and many times my opponents will lose to me when I play the Basman,especially in blitz.I have a few examples in my GK games,but you'll have to find them!
One may ask,well then..."why do I not play more of these type of games?"Well,I answered that above....those openings on my level make it "riskier"to play,but not necessarily "riskier"to lose...but draw(on my level).And draws willl slowly eat away at my rating.
Yet,I still prefer a good Tromp. or Basman game once in a while.Thats in my notes somewhere too!

baronderkilt
30-May-10, 22:07

T/A This is easily done ...

< I wish there was no such thing as opening database's and more and we should all be forced to play(atleast for a year or so)any and all openings that move "out of book"almost immediately or within a few moves or so. >

All you need to do is set up a MiniTournament Thematic for such a position. IF it needs to be done so that one player who sets it up has not "studied" the odd start, then it could choose between a few certain moves by toss of dice, or having each player select what Piece or Pawn moves next and another player pick where it moves to, etc. For the first 1/2 dozen moves or whatever.

How about 1.a3 c5 2.b3 d6 3.Bb2 Nf6 4.e4 e6 for a start?

tactical_abyss
31-May-10, 05:31

Baron,

Yes,I know it can be done that way baron(mini tourney),but what I really meant was in a different deeper context.I meant "theoretically" everyone should be forced for a period of time to play out of book and database from very early on... no matter what,to see how they really par without any of the known lines.This was to include all open challenges,incoming challenges...all challenges,even without a tourney.In other words,this is just a chess fantasy of mine to let thousands of players test their own tactical abilities and not be allowed by "temporary chess law"to use any given known line or they instantly lose the game.
It would be a test of inner tactical strength with both players.
But even though the idea of the mini tourney is a good one,it would only represent a tiny insignificant # of players to prove the "ultimate test"and not the bulk of players on GK for example who use the lines as a safety rope most of the time.See the difference?

tactical_abyss
31-May-10, 06:14

Baron,let me add to my message above,that....
Many players would THEN see how well they "would not"do without assistance and the better player they "thought"they were would fizzle out....atleast many times.Theoretically then perhaps,on a much wider band of players losing,those players can analyze where they went wrong and improve their tactical and positional skills in ways they never considered before...under a totally different scenario of random wild chess.The personal improvements
would perhaps be on a much larger scale.
But thanks baron,perhaps I will start an unrated mini tourney one day...but would perfer atleast 100 players in the tourney!

myrydin
31-May-10, 07:53

I have a little pet line against the Sicilian with 2. d3 which I thought would smack us out of the database ASAP. So you can imagine my disappointment when the computer analysis described it as "book."

tactical_abyss
31-May-10, 09:40

Many wing openings1.Na3 or 1.Nh3 will move out of B very easily,but so will many Trompowski's or Basman's in only a very few short moves.

extremo
26-Jun-10, 07:21

Why not Chess 960?

Why not eliminate the opening book by having a create game option that generates a chess 960 board? Does anyone know of a chess site that has this?

en.wikipedia.org

black_cat_hamlet
26-Jun-10, 19:01

There is one....

It's called chesscube.com. It's real time chess with also has the 960 game

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