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amacivn
07-Sep-23, 09:30

@ the-green-man
At the bottom of this page is a tab marked " report a problem" with a link to website problems , if enough people send a quick message maybe GK will notice ....
euro_pop_legend
07-Sep-23, 09:36

I tried on my smart phone and PC during the GK downtime and neither worked.
Something tells me that Mike and others had a "better way"of keeping the GK system antibugged
and or did not leave "enough instructions"to keep the system going better or how to make GK up and running faster.I am not so sure that it is a "cloud issue".That may be just an excuse by GK or a guess by others.But this downtime is much more frequent than it was since I was here back in 2005!My one opponent has about 10 conditional moves which I am pretty certain he will accept.
I do this often now,with all of these outages.So during the downtime,the ball was in his court,not mine.

Expect more downtime.Its coming.Expect more "disconnects"from the GK blitz rooms!!!
I already had a taste of that!!And in the old days,I can NEVER remember even one
disconnect temporary or otherwise in the Blitz rooms!Why now?Better technology and the cloud?
Well,forget the newest technology...for it is full of holes like swiss cheese!!
amacivn
07-Sep-23, 09:49

@sound-studio_pro
It's called preventative maintenance .....which keeps dem nasty bugs away

The message error note I received was from "cloudflare" it happens when the server doesn't recognise us trying to log in ....

'Fundamentally, Cloudflare is a large network of servers that can improve the security, performance, and reliability of anything connected to the Internet' .... not my words I copied it from their sponsored site .... it's so good... no one can connect!!!
euro_pop_legend
07-Sep-23, 10:41

Thanks amacivn.I am not up on all the new technologies and the cloud which was not around as far as I know throughout most of the years that GK existed.The bottom line is...its not working good!The toy breaks much and must be glued together again and again!!!How much "preventative maintenance" is necessary?Time and time again??I think something is much more "wrong"than a simple maintenance issue.If so,why now and not over the years on GK?Something is amiss.
And as I said,disconnects while there is NO preventive M going on in the blitz rooms is another issue that has NEVER occurred before like it has recently.Something is amiss.Its not all just preventative M...that is an excuse and a weak excuse.

Is that the new technologies?If so,give me a black and white TV with those old dusty tubes in it.
As a kid,I was content watching all the scary movies in black and white with only 3 channels!!
For color,we had a 3 layered color plate to attach to the front of the TV screen!!And yes,corded phones of decades past had a "better quality"voice on both sides without cell tower out of range disconnects.All this new tech stuff?Forget it.I can live without a smart phone and right now,my TV channels are free with a huge antenna on my roof.I get about 70 channels all for free and good enough for me.I laugh at many staring at their smart phones for hours a day.
There are many studies calling it a health hazard!Today,at the gym,I had this idiot staring
at his smart phone,while sitting on the shoulder pree machine for over 15 minutes!!!
About 10 other people wanted to use the machine...but the smart phone ruled!!!
Utter dumbness being addicted to some of these technologies.

As to GK...I do care about Preventative M,like I did in manufacturing machines where
I worked in the 1970's...but something is a "amiss"with all of this.GK should atleast
announce in everyones PM that therir will be downtime and give an approx duration
of downtime.Then openly stipulate added time to all in their games.Have they done
that every time?I do not think so.
markb56
07-Sep-23, 13:44

Report a problem...
Yes, I agree with amacivn that if enough of us keep reporting problems via the "Report a Problem" button located at the bottom of each page that something might get fixed (or at least get noticed). The GK administrators seem unaware of their own written policy (see paragraph two of gameknot.com ) which states they are supposed to add time to everyone's games during an outage to prevent timeouts.
markb56
07-Sep-23, 14:04

The outage isn't a connectivity/CloudFlare problem.
During the outage last night at 04:00 MDT (10:00 UTC), I ran the following connectivity tests:

ping gameknot.com
traceroute gameknot.com (or use "tracert gameknot.com" if running Windows)

Both tests indicated that the gameknot.com server was up and running which means it was not a connectivity/CloudFlare problem. My guess is that GK's Web services were unavailable given that their server was still connected and their network was running. It seems that since the "Live Chess" option was added to GK that things have been less stable.
euro_pop_legend
07-Sep-23, 18:24

As to the GK live chess added...it could be coincidence,but indeed,problems have begun to develop.Perhaps when too many people are playing on live chess at the same time?In that case,its more than a maintenance issue,but some serious upgrades to their system and overall bigger investments.I am no hardware expert,but what else could it be?I know much about chess software,but little about hardware except my own PC system and how to tweak a few bells and whistles.Other than that,I have to figure out how to plug it into the wall.

I suppose only GK can answer the questions.They will probably respond in a few days.
van_dammesque
17-Oct-23, 07:02

Another outage for several hours here in the UK.
Had a time-out which was covered by the emergency postponement feature. Hopefully this will also be 'reimbursed' so I can save for an actual emergency on my side.
charger2752
17-Oct-23, 07:03

outage again
Again, unavailable for a few hours, still no notification or any plus time. This is starting to be _very_ annoying
the-green-man
17-Oct-23, 07:10

Down again
Me too - out for several hours again today. This is becoming a regular thing. What's going on?
amacivn
17-Oct-23, 08:02

Down again
I play on other sites without issue ... what am I paying a premium subscription for ?

It was more than a few hrs for me nearer 10 longest yet

I will fill out the site problem form .... again not holding my breath for a response
euro_pop_legend
17-Oct-23, 08:02

I have been on GK since 2005 with a few different accounts since then.
I cannot remember in all those years ever having as much as a rare tiny
level of site downtime in as much as I have seen on GK in the last few months.
Perhaps just coincidence,but ever since Mike has left GK and sold it,something
is "rotten in Denmark" as the saying goes.Whatever the issue it,it needs to be
addressed more seriously,upgraded or more.GK may pass on the blame to
others who represent them,but I do not believe everything I read.Perhaps a
better,stronger,more $$ invested system with them or others who handle
GK's site.All those things from weather to war,I do not accept as a valid excuse.
Why?Because I go online with other chess sites and about 20 other sites from
Ebay to Amazon,Google and other sites and never have any downtime issues.
In a way,that is one of the reasons I keep my gameload down low.Even given
an extra 24 hours(?)is still not enough to make up for the issues.
amacivn
17-Oct-23, 08:10

Great points ... I've been around 2 years less than you with hardly ever a glitch

I've just sent a message via the report a problem link at the bottom of the page ....If enough people complain they have to respond .... don't they ? .... lol... probably not
euro_pop_legend
17-Oct-23, 08:28

GK respond?Ha ha.They may respond,but that does not solve anything.Words and actions
are two different scenarios of reality,because I "heard"those words before from GK.

I have complained to GK about other issues from one or two "retards"entering my PM or a blitz game chat where they began their insults(like a little child)and GK did little.I do not even think the same blitz gameboard#info exists anymore to write down with the time and chat to complain properly to GK.All seems lost.I have given up and will let you guys wave the protest flags.
In the meantime,I will just go on other chess sites or drink another margarita on the beach
in St Barts while this site disintegrates,including the rated blitz which has issues.
When I begin to lose rating points in a blitz game and no moves were made on either side
and I did NOT resign....THEN I know this site is going south,not north.
yon_cassius
17-Oct-23, 08:38

I hope this site does not fail... I've got regular opponents here, and other players I've played many times, and hope to play many times more...
I could play Chess elsewhere... but a game against some random person I've never played before, and may never play again... doesn't mean as much as a game against a rival from many games.  

And I haven't seen Chess Ladders of the Chess League anywhere else... (absence of evidence does not necessarily signify evidence of absence, of course).
euro_pop_legend
17-Oct-23, 08:43

I will remain on this site and still love many of its features.But there are a few "rotten apples"
that need to be addressed.And its much more than just "downtime".
catdad
17-Oct-23, 12:48

Deleted by catdad on 20-Oct-23, 09:52.
amacivn
17-Oct-23, 12:57

catcad
I think they're to big to care .....it's reminds me of an old song


Money....Get back....I'm alright, Jack, keep your hands off of my stack 🎶
kingdawar
17-Oct-23, 13:16

catdad
That's my impression... that absolutely no-one is monitoring the site anymore and it just drifts on the ocean on its own
markb56
17-Oct-23, 13:55

ping and traceroute/tracert
The times for the last 3 outages follows a definite pattern. When gameknot.com port 80 goes down it always happens around 23:00 PDT (06:00 UTC) and ends around 07:00 (14:00 UTC). Since GK is located in California (i.e. PDT time), 23:00 PDT to 06:00 PDT are the night hours when most people are asleep. Either GK thinks that nighttime in California is a prime maintenance window (no one else is awake, right?), or the operations team are sleeping until morning.

While the Cloud Flare message makes one think it's someone else's problem, I think it's something on GK's end. Each time the outage occurs I've used "ping" and "traceroute" to gameknot.com and as far as these two diagnostics are concerned, GK's server is online and reachable but that it's web interface is down, i.e.:

ping gameknot.com

traceroute gameknot.com (or "tracert gameknot.com" if using windows)
amacivn
17-Oct-23, 14:47

Mark
Your right about cloudfare....it's definitely at the GK end ...when cloudfare doesn't receive a response after 100 sec it times out ...protection against what I have no idea ..
kingdawar
20-Nov-25, 00:55

GK down 18-Nov-25
Did we go two full years without Cloudflare issues? Anyway there was Cloudflare-related downtime two days ago again.
markb56
20-Nov-25, 04:23

Cloudflare outage
To make matters worse, my bank also uses Cloudflare and it also has occasional problems. And yes, Cloudflare CEO apologized for the 'Unacceptable' Outage and he explains what went wrong in the following link. For several hours Tuesday, a significant portion of the internet was unavailable in Cloudflare's worst outage since 2019.

www.cnet.com
amacivn
20-Nov-25, 04:32

Outage
The problem made the National News in the UK , is it just me or are similar problems happening more and more
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