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schlaffi 26-May-10, 01:37 |
Only playing against Premium MemberI prefer to play only against Premium Member. Many children are playing and finish the game after 3 moves. Is there a option for it when I want to start a new game? |
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kingdawar 26-May-10, 03:41 |
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rt4sm 26-May-10, 05:15 |
Schlaffis win/loss record on GK is atrocious, so i don't think it's wise of him to be this choosy |
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kingdawar 26-May-10, 05:58 |
Hmm...Your last two games have been losses for you after 2 and 3 moves! Oh those damned kids |
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schlaffi 26-May-10, 12:11 |
But the children had probably also reasons, perhaps they were not allowed to use longer daddys computer. |
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There are some options to be more picky on your open challengesMin finished games: Max time-outs: Players making moves: |
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tactical_abyss 30-May-10, 06:45 |
Why?Hmmmmm,well....many,(but certainly not all) non premium members do not take their game as seriously as a paying member and (for me atleast),tend to lose more games against me statistically! Sometimes I prefer an easier win to gain some nice additional points to reach a certain rating goal that I have not yet achieved. Analyzing past weakness in my opponents past or present games prior to challenging them,setting up challenge preferences as mentioned above,and seeking out some of these weakness's combined with a non premium player to challenge,all adds up many times to an "edge" for me.Maybe not for the next guy,but it has worked for me. Some players can definitely use a rating boost and should not be "picky" as stated above. There are various methods to do this,including perhaps,but not limited to playing non premium members! Do I wish all players were premium members?Ahhhhh...no!I hate to work too too hard in every game I play...easier kills are a welcome relief sometimes!Chuckle. Sometimes I compare a non premium member(on any chess site) to someone who was given a car for free,with paid up insurance.Now compare that to someone who just bought a new Corvette and has paid for it and continues to pay the insurance. Who is going to be more careful with their car since they are paying for it? Thats a no brainer!And so,in many circumstances just like a "ding" or dent in the free car,a non premium member does not always care as much(sometimes,not always)in their road travels across the chess board! |
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schlaffi 30-May-10, 07:00 |
@tactical_abyssYou are thinking in a complete other way about it than me. I have to think about it, maybe you are right. Regards |
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tugger 30-May-10, 07:40 |
"I hate to work too too hard in every game I play...easier kills are a welcome relief sometimes!Chuckle. " I can't argue with this. Sometimes, when I'm losing against a better player, it makes me feel a lot better when I move to a table on which I'm dominant. schlaffi... may I recommend you play mini tournaments and team games? People tend to take the games more seriously, I can only remember one timeout in the last six months from an opponent, and he timed out of a fair few at the time, so it looks likely it was one of those unavoidable situations where chess comes second in life, as opposed to someone who just doesn't bother to log on often enough. Of course, I mean this as no disrespect, but at your rating it will be difficult to find suitable opponents who will take the game seriously. Many players under 1000 are rated so because they don't complete their games, as opposed to being bad a chess. Perhaps you should set your heights a little higher, play people who have an established rating (20 games played) of 1200+. Not only will you find they complete their games more often, you will also find your game will naturally improve thanks to the better quality of chess you're up against. |
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tactical_abyss 30-May-10, 07:50 |
Many players may disagree with my "method"of thinking,but my experience across thousands of games on many chess sites has shown for me that the "psyche" of free players vs paying members does change in how SOME players take their game "seriously"or not...atleast to some degree.Note I said "some"players".I have been,of course beaten by non premium members as well...but as I mentioned above,with careful "weeding"and precise selection and combining this with a non premium player,in "theory"it can lead to an edge for you from time to time. Some players will laugh at this.But I laugh back,showing my rating and statistics played against non premium players.All theories have a double edged opinion...but i'll go with mine! Even GK states in their premium subscription page...."please consider subscribing to a premium membership......but it also shows that you are serious about playing chess".Unquote.And by reverse thought then,some players WILL NOT take their game as seriously,thus will lose more,especially at your rating level schlaffi.Will this make you a better player?Not necessarily...thats another thread.Will you just end up losing those points back anyway?Possibly.But again,thats another issue.My point was to say...play premium players for that possibly stronger and more "serious"opponent to gain strength in your own play.... but also play non premium for possibly an easier win and a few extra points sometimes!Some players,for example,who just start out on a chess site may have a true strength of 2000 rating for example,but start out at 1200 like on GK.So, in theory,weeding out a bunch of non premium players whilst that 2000 player is "provisional" may be the "key" to moving from 1200 to 2000 a bit quicker!All this is "theory"...but I contend my "theory" has worked for me! |
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tactical_abyss 30-May-10, 09:52 |
Schlaffi....I contend that if your strength is not that great as yours is not...then by all means play the strongest and "serious" players you can,especially premium paying members....atleast at first.Gain whatever insight and lessons into the game as you can,especially from your losses. As you gain chess playing strength,mixing in some non premuim players with your premium players may be a good idea,even if they time-out and you win after move 5 and you learned nothing from that game! Why?Because,as your rating strength "improves"from playing serious premium players you can top that off with a few free points from the non serious time-out players,or players that will resign more frequently at an earlier stage in the game.This inturn will attract even HIGHER rated opponents to play you as your rating goes even higher.Call it a "balancing act".You will have some "inflated rating points",perhaps...but if you learned enough from your initial premium games,attracting those stronger players,playing them and winning may have you become a stronger player and improve in the end.And alot of those premium players would have not challenged you anyway,without the free rating "inflation". In the case of a 2000 player(in strength)but not rating(as mentioned above provisionally).Doing the "opposite"may be best.Which is,playing only non premium players first,gaining some "inflated",easy(or easier) points,then destroying the unsuspected players partway through the first 10 games or so(or they destroying themselves through T.O.'s for example)and then destroying the unsuspecting higher rated opponents later...even the premium ones! Again all this is theory,but I like theories! Reminds me of the casino.I consider myself a professional roulette player. I play various "systems" I learned from a professional gambler,who taught me about 10 systems to "improve my odds"of winning and lessen the casino's "vigor"edge.These systems are "theories"as well,but they can lead to victory on the felt cloth many times with money management. Many times I sit right next to a gambler that has say,500 dollars in chips.And I sit there next to him with only a $100 dollars in chips,a measly tiny sick looking pile of chips,compared to him.He plays only certain numbers like his birthdates or other random numbers hoping for the best.He has no system of playing at all.His pile of chips is rapidly going down while my small pile is getting bigger,ever so slowly since I am only winning smaller amounts of money...say 6 or 7 dollars,but winning more than him.After 1 hour playing roulette,he has lost all his money,puffs on his cigar,grunts about the table being fixed and leaves.I get up after that hour...with many times 200-300 dollars in my pocket with my win and quit limit for that "session" and hit the restaurant and bar with the casinos money! Motto with your chess games? I'll let you figure that one out! TA |