GameKnot: GameKnot related, repetitive logging in every 30 days?

GameKnot related: repetitive logging in every 30 days?

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tactical_abyss
30-Jun-10, 18:39

repetitive logging in every 30 days?

I usually never logout of GK.I usually just click on my favorites list once i'm on the internet and connect to GK without any logging in.When I leave GK for that session,I just click my upper GK window box,disconnect from the GK page and site and shut down my computer.
I don't know how long its been going on,but now,every 30 days I am forced to "log on"using my password.I find this not only inconvenient,but not set up correctly.For example,today I typed a message to someone and when I attemped to "send"the message the log on screen appeared!And I lost my entire typed message!So it appears that I was logged on to type the message,but by coincidence,the new 30 day log on screen appeared at the same time.Is there any way around this?Can I stay logged on indefinitely,or must I be subject to this 30 day auto log on by GK?There is an option to "stay"logged on for 30 days,but not an option to stay logged on indefinitely...atleast none that I can see.In any case,my internet DID NOT disconnect.But I do not like losing time,inconvenience or any messages if by chance i'm typing a message at the same time the new log on screen unwontedly appears.

Now,after I did log in again,what should have happened was that the GK system should have redirected me then to my typed page so that I could just click and send the message.But that is not what happened.And this is the flaw.
So again,is there a way to avoid this repeat 30 day "relogging"in,or must I be forced to put up with this?

maca
01-Jul-10, 09:55

I suppose they need to log out all users momentarily if they have to run some critical updates, change hardware or stuff... When you say every 30 days, is it always the same time of the month, or does it appear random when this happens?

I for one would not remain permanently connected, however. It's a security risk, and also adds dead weight on the server.

Regards,
MaCa.

tactical_abyss
01-Jul-10, 17:12

All I know,Maca,is that there is a GK option box that one can check and it states..."keep me logged in for 30 days."So from the exact date and time that you optionally check that box,you are kept logged in for exactly 30 days.I'm just assuming that if you DO NOT check that box,then you will always be logged off automatically...but i'm not sure,i'll have to check sometime.But I discovered that if you are about to perform a GK function like sending a message or perhaps even attempting to send a move,you may not be able to,if by chance the 30 day log off just happens to coincide with the general time the 30 day auto log off function appears to kick in.

As to dead weight on the server,I disagree.Because if it was even a slight problem for GK,then they would NOT have the optional "keep me logged on"feature.So it was GK's suggestion for players to do this if they want,in the first place.

As to security risks,possibly,but NOT on my system.A computer Einstein friend of mine has engineered personal security software for me that is as air tight as the military/Pentagon computers.Custom designed for only a few people he knows personally and not available commercially.So I fear not!Hackers are definitely welcome!The last hacker that tried to intercept one of my communications was auto sent back a "worm"that,according to my friend....destroyed the hackers computer system,atleast partially,unless the hacker was immediately able to shut his system down,which is doubtful!Good!

Best,
TA

surfdude99
02-Jul-10, 04:08

repetitive logging

you guys are lucky, i get booted out of GK site frequently sometimes several times a day, its really annoying, it could be my service provider however

tugger
02-Jul-10, 05:03

"I find this not only inconvenient..."

This made me laugh! Inconvenient? Having to log in once a month? Cm'on TA, you're not that lazy are you? It should be no problem, you should be happy that GK actually check who you are every now and then.

I find going to the toilet inconvenient.

tactical_abyss
02-Jul-10, 06:58

Tugger...

Ahh...but tugger you should learn to read alittle more closely.I had to teach you a lesson in a game you thought was drawn,now must I teach you to use reading glasses?No,i'm not lazy,but if see above its a combined problem.Like I said,I lost messages due to this auto log out situation and its simply unwanted.I was looking to see if there was a way around this situation.I lost over 15 minutes of message typing due to being logged out against my will.
Laugh at me?No...i'm lauging at you!Perhaps it is a situation that you might not have encountered....well,I can't help you there.

tactical_abyss
02-Jul-10, 07:28

Tugger,

Rather than pick out a one liner sentence out of someones multiparagraph post,you should learn to "interpret"the entire paragrahs(s)as a whole and then extrapolate an accurate opinion,idea or suggestion.Otherwise,your responses are flawed.
Now,I learned that I can be logged out from GK even when i'm actually logged in!Atleast directly prior or during the time i'm about to send a message to someone.I must have attempted the message transfer right at the moment the 30 day GK auto log-out occurred.Yes,I would call this "inconvienent",even if it is rare.

tactical_abyss
02-Jul-10, 07:46

Thanks surfdude99,
Sorry to hear about you getting disconnected from Gk.But in my case its not my server.My server has not let me down yet.My situation is totally different with this 30 day log out feature.Somethings that can happen in a negative way may be rare,so it goes unnoticed by most players until someone brings up a one time situation as i described above.Direct relinking back to my message page DID NOT occur as it should have,when I was "forced"to log back into GK.And this WAS NOT an internet,server or router problem.

By the way,your handle name is great!If the water isn't full of oil this year,i'll be surfing the funnel down in Ocean City Maryland this year!

tactical_abyss
02-Jul-10, 08:58

Maca and others....

Hmmmm...so lets see what else I can add to my overcooked posts above...
I know for a fact after checking my notes,that my GK disconnect occurred EXACTLY in the 30 day cycle.I just didn't know exactly what time I clicked on that "box".So then I know from looking at my notes and making sure I was still connected to the internet,that this was not a computer problem,internet problem or anything related on "my"side.
I realize that as tugger said above...."you should be happy that GK actually check who you are every now and then".And I agree!But not if I can get disconnected from GK,by GK once i'm on GK!Yes,and this is defined as :Inconvenience.The log in page should have occurred the NEXT time I tried to go on to GK,not "during" the time.So now,I better not type in any messages to my opponents on the last day of every month.Hmmmmm...no redirect to message page after logging in again,disconnects when I least expect them and it is not a computer,internet,file,program,router or other problem.No,no "inconvienence"at all!

tugger
02-Jul-10, 17:43

"I had to teach you a lesson in a game you thought was drawn..."

It was drawn. Your lesson showed me that I was right to take the draw. Don't you remember?

I am lazy, that's why I didn't read your whole post and just commented on what made me laugh. So very, very lazy.

Ok, I actually read the rest of it. If you had the latest version of FireFox, you'd simply be able to go back a page or two, and your message would still be there in text, which you could copy for future pasting after logging in. I was simply saying I thought it was a security thing that they make you log in monthly, which isn't a bad thing, unless they boot you off when you're actually doing something you cannot recover, I guess. I don't encounter this problem because I use the latest version of FF, and log in daily anyway.

tag1153
02-Jul-10, 17:59

tugger

I find going to the toilet a fascinating and engaging endeavor each and every time. But that's just me.....

trollingtheforumslookingforlaughs

baronderkilt
02-Jul-10, 22:21

GK is labor intensive~!

Now I can take a bone-builder pill once a month instead of weekly ... or log-in to GK. But I want a YEARLY log-in! Come on gk, don't I do enough to get here ??! lol

}8-D

maca
03-Jul-10, 03:25

Yes, I actually think that depending on your browser, the message might still be in there when you log in.

What I personally do every time I've left my browser idle on any site with dynamic content for an extended period of time, is that when I return, the first thing I do is hit F5 to refresh the page. That way, you'll immediately see if you're still signed in or not, and all the dynamic content will be fresh as well.

It sounds to me that once a month, the GK may be running some stuff that needs all the users to be signed out momentarily. They might be software updates, hardware maintenance, security routines or some other automated algorithms, but any way things like that cannot generally be achieved if the site is being accessed. There's probably not much that they can do about it if that's the case.

Regards,
MaCa.

tugger
03-Jul-10, 05:30

maca, it seems unlikely to me. I would imagine that with so many users, there are always many people logged into GK at any given time. It would be quite rude of GK to evict all these people, even momentarily, for a monthly check up. How many of them might lose an hour's worth of analysis? Or a puzzle they took three hours to compose? Or a message that took an hour? It would happen often enough for it to be inconvenient on a large scale.

It seems more logical to me that GK will automatically force anyone who has been logged in for 30 days to log in again, just in case they left "keep me logged in" checked on a library computer, or something like that. Otherwise, someone might log into TA's account and make bad moves. You can never be too careful...

bajc2
10-Jul-10, 21:27

Logins should be permanent

There's no real technical or policy reason behind logging users out once a month. This is not a high security service, and rightly so, since there is no commerce or important privacy at stake. By letting us stay logged in for a month, there is already no protection against accidentally letting a third party use one's account.

Gameknot, you should let us stay logged in forever.

kansasjayhawk
11-Jul-10, 00:52

My take?

All the time spent posting messages on this topic are probably about as much time and effort that it would take to log on for an entire year, once a month.

kingdawar
11-Jul-10, 08:08

It is more likely your browser logs you out (i.e. due to a removed cookie) than GK serverside forcing you to log out

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