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 Cheating by delayingI am currently playing a player who set the game for 14 days per move (yes, alarm bells should have rung then, but I thought naively that he may be going on holiday soon or something!). When he got down to King only verses King and two pawns (advanced and very widely separated with absolutely no chance of catching them) he started to make a move every 14 days even though he continues to move on all his other games several times daily. I have wasted six weeks already and it is very annoying. I have asked him to please move in a reasonable time because I can only play 12 games at a time (I used to be a full paying member, but now I have been out of work for 4 months and can't afford it again just yet). Is there anything I can do to speed him up apart from adding him to my ignore list for the future which I have done?..I would love to shame him by stating his name, but I'm not sure if that is in the forum rules. At this rate it will take about another six months! I would dearly love to alert other players so they do not fall into the same trap with this person. Can you please tell me if there is a proper way of doing this? Although this may not be classed as cheating, it is cheating in spirit. |
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tactical_abyss 30-Mar-13, 17:40 |
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tactical_abyss 30-Mar-13, 18:00 |
I checked your ongoing games.The game you describe has a 7 day per move time limit,NOT 14 days.So it would be impossible for you opponent to have taken 14 days on moves without timing-out and losing.The exception would be if he has taken an official postponement vacation...but then if he took 14 days,he would have to wait another 14 days to take an additional postponement.Or if he took a 7 day vacation postponement,he would have to wait another 7 days before he could postpone again.And since you did not mention anything about your opponent taking official postponement's,something does not add up in your story,and I doubt this opponent has been taking vacation postponments. Again,you have a 7 day game,not a 14 day game set up.And its really up to you to NOT accept 7 day or 14 day games...any one of them can easily take over a year to complete.So,no your opponent is not cheating,just stalling as far as I see it.You'll just have to be patient for your win,which will surely come.There is nothing you can do about it.Technically,you should really blame yourself,not your opponent for any game that ends up becoming a "long game".Your other games have much shorter time controls,so you should never have started a 7 day game if you would be worried about a game lasting a long period of time.7 to 14 days is a time control I would never accept under any circumstances.HOWEVER,in reality,your way ahead of schedule in that game,if you ask me,since you are on move 56 in a 7 day control time that started near the end of Feburary and this is now only March 30th,so that game is progressing nicely,even with your opponent slowing down recently.So,Your opponent is doing absolutely nothing wrong,even ethically.He may be stalling,but its his legal chess right to "stall",or take as long as he wants up to the full amount of time alloted per move.Maybe he feels that you will time-out if he "stalls"long enough.I've seen that happen before.Good luck! TA |
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tactical_abyss 30-Mar-13, 19:40 |
Let me add that your opponent has a 10% time-out stat or 70 games that have timed-out so far.Thats pretty high.So one thing you want to look at before you start a game with anyone is their time-out percent stats.Statistically,alot of players that have a high time-out stat will also take close to their full amount of time in many moves...not necessarily "all" moves but many of them,and thats why they end up timing-out,see?But that would be in your favor,if your opponent timed-out,so you can look at it that way as well.Its called..."letting your opponent hang himself". So maybe you should feel good he is taking longer to move!Reverse the logic! Some players actually seek out opponents with high time-out stats and say,80 games going on at one time.Why? For an easy win,if that player times-out and some easy points...thats why! I'm one of the players that occasionally seeks out players with alot of games and alot of time-outs.My "wait"however,is not long like 7 to 14 days.Most of my games are 2 days and some 3 day games.So,if my opponent "stalls" thats good!Why?Well,if he is playing it "close"all the time,down to the wire to move,he may very well,get stuck in traffic,an elevator,forced to work overtime,hijacked to Cuba or something else...and time-out!So technically,one is rolling the dice when taking the full amount of time.Patience in corresp chess without emotion is the key.Trust me. |
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lnrdtroll 19-Apr-13, 18:27 |
Important tip for everyone in this situation It`s an excellent tool for cases like this. You can make as many conditional lines as you want, so make all the possible lines for each of the possible K moves that your opponent has. This way, right after he makes a move it will be his turn again, he will see it and he will make another move. Soon he will follow a line till checkmate (unless he makes a K move that you let out of the conditionals), so maybe the next time he logs in to make moves in his games it will be game over against you, because he was checkmated or finally resigned a few moves before that. |
