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spirit-blade
25-May-09, 19:33

reporting a player

I have put a player on my ignore list and he is contacting other people I play asking them to send me messages. What can be done about this?

kingdawar
25-May-09, 21:44

"Report abuse" link, next to messages received from them...

spirit-blade
26-May-09, 05:11

so the only way now to report him is to take him off my ignore list and wait to recieve another message from him.. After I have reported abuse...then what happens?

kingdawar
26-May-09, 05:23

No, you don't have to take him from your ignore list. I suggest to use gameknot.com and explain the trouble

baronderkilt
26-May-09, 12:14

What I've heard ...

I don't keep real current on rules changes, etc. But I know how it was when I came here, and that was: someone on an ignore list was not to use other means of contacting the person, whether as you mention, or thru forums, etc. Like heinzkat says, I think they will take care of it for you when you contact GK directly.
Alternatively, you could always put the people who write to you for that one onto your ignore list as well.

baronderkilt
26-May-09, 12:15

btw ...

I believe it was also against rules for others to assist someone to get around an Ignore List.

spirit-blade
26-May-09, 12:23

Thank you...they are contacting me because they are confused as to why they are getting messages.. they are letting me know what he is doing and they too are ignoring him...
when i clicked on the gamknot thread that Heinzkat gave me I typed in brief descripiton and it took me to the answer q23.. or something.. and said I need to put them on ignore list. Will someone also contact me directly?

kingdawar
26-May-09, 12:24

Spirit/klm

After entering the description, you should scroll down the page and click "click here"

"Q: I was not able to find an answer to my question, how do I contact GameKnot directly?
A: Please click here to send a message to GameKnot's customer support. Please allow up to 3 business days for a reply."

amateurke
26-May-09, 22:57

wow...so THERE is that well hidden contact option!?!!??

amazing....

kingdawar
27-May-09, 04:11

Amateurke I have been explaining it to you three times but you wouldn't listen

leonster
24-Oct-20, 23:44

Insulted by a player

To whom it my concern,
Good day to you. My name is Leon TerBlanche. leonster is my username on Gameknot. I have been a loyal subscriber on Gameknot for more than 11 years. I love my chess!
However I am very upset by a player who today has not only called me a cheat but also insult me and swore at me. I am not sure what to make of this. So I am writing to you for advice and guidance here.
I have played over 15000 games and this has never happened before. I am upset and this person has made it personal. I have never cheated. My rating is very much up and down but I have never cheated ever!
The player in question is boone57.
Daniel Tyler from Thailand. I can also forward the exact content if need be.
Please advise.
Kind regards
Leon TerBlanche

Gameknot.com
25-Oct-20, 18:07

If you find someone's comments and/or messages annoying or inappropriate, please simply add that person to your ignore list:
gameknot.com

If you believe a private message or a game comment you have received violates one or more of GameKnot website rules, please file a formal complaint via the "report abuse" link located either to the left of the corresponding private message, or below the game comments, if it was during the in-game chat. This way we can verify that the messages were sent, and by which player, and in what context.

Please refer to the "Rules and Policies" link located at the bottom of all GameKnot pages for the detailed description of what's unacceptable on GameKnot. Thank you for your understanding and anticipated cooperation.

twinwintowers
13-Mar-24, 22:38

Complaint against the following sunrise2018

sunrise2018

This guy keeps postponing ... other games no ... my games yes ... he has no considerations for other players ... if you postpone one game all games should be postponed ...
Ted ... twintowers

myrydin
15-Mar-24, 04:37

You can cancel your opponents’ postponements yourself if they enable it through something like this. But if an opponent legally uses the PP feature, they’re entitled to do so without being complained about on the forums.

euro_pop_legend
15-Mar-24, 06:17

myrydin

I am not sure because I was always a paying member on GK,but a non paying member recently told me by PM that he had no option to cancel an opponents postponement.Maybe he missed it,but maybe not.It is possible,I assume,that not all the options are available to non premium members vs premium members.

euro_pop_legend
15-Mar-24, 06:58

Also myrydin...

I agree with you regarding mentioning a players name in the forums in regards to stalls & PP's.
Perhaps and maybe in a GK club,but not in the general GK forums.
That is not proper etiquette and should be addressed with either GK if needed or the opponent themselves.You and I know that,but others do not.Same with that "cheating"accusations.Names should not be mentioned in the general GK forums.Also, the word "stall"does not really exist on GK,since any player can take as long as they want to move and up to one second before they time-out.In the past,I have canceled an opponents vacation flag/PP if I seen that they were playing other games during their legal PP and perhaps avoiding me.But after thinking about it and with the low level of games I play,the added delay for me from them is extremely minor and I just let it go.Perhaps the PP opponent has health problems and wants to temporarily take a bit more time with some games and less on others,especially within the opening compared to a midgame.Delays should not bother anyone...for they have to move within the time limit frame either way,whether by the vacation flag or their days time limit.I have evolved far beyond those little things that annoy others.I just sit back,smile and move on.If any player even microscopically irritates me I simply will not play them again and end of subject with them.

myrydin
15-Mar-24, 08:26

Thanks, PQL…

…it’s been a long while since I had a free membership, I didn’t realise the option may be withheld from such players. Good extra points too, I have my health issues and that is why I take a while to move. It’s better to give your opponent the benefit of the doubt, especially in correspondence games, imo.

euro_pop_legend
15-Mar-24, 18:49

myrydin

Well good luck and good health to you.You should have plenty of time to move with that 2 week per move game you have going on as I write this.The last time(rare)that I had a 2 week game like yours,it took about 2 years to complete!Not my cup of tea,but for those who want a game to last until their beard turns gray....well more power to any and all.I will not be playing any games for a long time.Too much going on in my life to play.So,my 2500 potential will have to wait....maybe next year.

wünsche dir das Beste
Joe

lord_shiva
21-Mar-24, 11:01

Cancelling Postponement

Your opponent only receives the option if you make moves. If you move in a postponed game, your opponent can cancel the postponement. Otherwise not.

People complain about opponents taking all the time allotted all the time. But primarily only the 1600 and lower rated players. I never hear this from 1700 and above, and the 1900+ rated players tend to not move before the next to last day. I bet the average days to play goes way up.

It isn’t an issue to fret about. GK has the immediate game option now. Though it is a little clunky. I kept waiting for my opponent to move and MY clock ran out. It turns out you sometimes have to hit refresh to see it is your turn.

There is also the wonderful conditional move feature for expediting play. Though that is limited to just a few moves for non subscribers.

lord_shiva
21-Mar-24, 11:13

Team Captains

We name names of suspected ratings manipulators in the team captains (and co-captains) forum. So we can examine their game history for confirmation. There are a few players who egregiously manipulate their rating. These players are banned from teams, and we are examining ways to limit their participation in league games.

As for postponing games, I sometimes travel abroad. I will set the vacation flag for the entire trip length, but if I’m on a three day train trip or a week long boat cruise it may be awhile between ports, where I might get a connection to make moves. Often I have better things to do on vacation than play chess, but if I’m waiting for a flight or something I might examine positions.

Now when I get into the mid game it gets pretty complex, and I take most of the days available because there is always a better move up until there is no more time.

amacivn
09-Apr-24, 14:41

Seriously

"We name names of suspected ratings manipulators in the team captains (and co-captains) forum. So we can examine their game history for confirmation. There are a few players who egregiously manipulate their rating. These players are banned from teams, and we are examining ways to limit their participation in league games""

Really L_S ... I guess I shouldn't be surprised ... so you randomly trawl the list of active players on other Teams and accuse them of something with no proof

I think you need to remember the GK rules of conduct especially...the part about intentionally irritating players

lord_shiva
09-Apr-24, 18:34

No Proof

Proof is for math and whiskey.

Instead, we look for evidence. What we’ve found is pretty blatantly obvious. Why are you defending cheaters, Neil?

lord_shiva
09-Apr-24, 18:37

Cheating

I think you should learn to enjoy conditional moves. Especially because they are so useful. You obviously aren’t irritated by cheaters, but many fair minded members of GK are.

amacivn
10-Apr-24, 01:33

As usual

Wrong ....

Proof .....evidence or argument establishing a fact , I'm not sure when GK made you judge and jury i never got the memo , but your little group sitting around patting yourselves does not cut it with me

lord_shiva
10-Apr-24, 06:40

LOL

Suit yourself. No one was interested in your opinion, Amacivn.

In a court, given you compare us to judges and jury, guilt is established beyond a reasonable level of doubt. Who did we determine was guilty that you know (for your established fact) is innocent?

Here is where your opinion is actually solicited. Or is that high rating the result of a good chess engine? We have software for analyzing that.

lord_shiva
10-Apr-24, 06:57

Background

I got interested in this when one of my team mates was trounced in two games I expected he should at least have gotten a draw. His opponent had been rated within fifty points below him at the start of the match, but was nearly 200 points afterwards. It s certainly possible this could happen as a result of fair play or timeouts, but my curiosity was piqued. I know you would have thought nothing of it, but I checked out why the opponent had fallen so far.

Other team captains had brought the subject of rating manipulation up before. And what I found was blatant. Every team game was a victory, while private games against much lower ranked players were lost, generally by resignation after a pointless queen sacrifice. Queen sacrifices never occurred in team games. In a few games the opponent resigned while enjoying significant advantage in both material and position.

You’re free to examine the evidence yourself. Or you may continue to defend cheating—I can only guess what advantage you must see in that.

The team captains of the very few manipulators we identified gave these cheaters the boot. I think such decisions are best left to team captains—don’t you agree? Maybe these players will find a welcome home among the Sneaky Knights, but not on any of the honest teams.

amacivn
10-Apr-24, 09:32

Hahahaha .... nobody is EVER interested in anything you EVER say hahaha which is the reason your on the open forums ... been turned down by NG again have we ?

Honestly man you seriously need to grow up ....stop acting like a child.... I guess all this is coming from the fact I'm about to beat you in a game ... suck it up we all have to ..

luzhin657
27-May-24, 16:00

Sore loses always report others!!?

I have probably played over the last 10 years on all the Major On-line chess playing sites from chess.com -schemingmind- Lichess - Redhotpawn and its usually always the same type of individual who accuse you of not playing fair saying things like you must be a "C" or worst, my advice is just block them, then report them, do not let them effect your chess playing enjoyment and report them, usually these individuals are poor players themselves so accuse everyone who beats them as a "C" they really are not worthy just block and report them Job Done!!?

lord_shiva
28-May-24, 10:04

Luzhin

God point. Except in the current situation reporting appears to be useless. So we created a thread in the Gameknot Captain’s forum for policing team games, which Amacivn opposes because cheaters should not face any consequences, apparently. I do not understand why he defends cheating.

I do not believe he is cheating in the games we are playing, and if he is that’s just on him. I would prefer to lose honestly knowing I gave it my best effort than to win Trump style, who takes mulligans against children.

So in individual games that’s just the way it goes, you note their profile, block and/or report. But in team games we don’t think the whole team should suffer because some people won’t play fair. I’m going to defend the Captain’s community in self policing, at least until GK resumes their own interventions. It seems senseless to me to destroy the camaraderie and joy of the team games by encouraging poor sportsmanship as Amacivn has chosen.

amacivn
28-May-24, 12:29

luzhin657 your right mate "sore loses always report others!!!"

I think I will take your advice and block him . Unfortunately it's a waste of time reporting him, I'm not sure anyone listens

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