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I agree. If it were old fashioned correspondence chess, it wouldn’t be an opponent’s concern when you’re at the chess board pondering your move.
If some description must be on show, ‘online status withheld’ seems fairer to me.
Just my opinion on what I see as no more than a minor quibble.
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Thanks myrydin.I also agree it is somewhat a minor issue,but maybe not to everyone who wants total stealth for whatever reason they deem fit.I once had tried the hiding status "on"and then later got a message from my opponent telling me that it was nice I was online again,after he looked at the game board!That took me back a bit and made me wonder about this feature that seems to contradict itself.Personally,I would also like a feature that places me on a GK do not call list!Meaning that a NO message option is activated(except for any GK administrative messages)to any and all other GK members.I get some weird messages once in a while and team recruiters still message me,even though I say "No"to teams on the top of my profile.So rather than add them to my ignore list,I would rather simply not enable them to contact me until I change my mind!Kind of like a sign you see in many residence areas saying..."no peddlers,no sales people or no telemarketers allowed here"!So an option to turn off incoming messages is probably something that would be a highly desirable feature on GK.GK would probably say that it could not be done because then they could not send a message to members.But I am sure in today's technology and computer codes,they could get around that issue.
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Sorry, labyrinthine, I didn’t put that very well, I meant that while it’s only a minor quibble to me, I can see how it can be an issue to others.
I can also sympathise with your other request, it’s not unlike how some people opt to go ex-directory when they receive a lot of nuisance calls.
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Yes,just some suggestions.Whether they ever get any major attention or ever changed,well,that is another issue.Either way,I won't lose any sleep over it.I am sure that there are counter claims for the opposite views,but no matter what,I believe in the freedom of choice and policy/option changes to suite all members.
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I asked myself the same thing for a while. But, I'm glad we have it. I won't name anyone, but in the past, there were people online that asked for my personal information. Someone even asked me for my password, and I was once manipulated into blocking a lot of people for no good reason. As well as, violating GK rules by insulting others at one point. Eventually, I stopped liking the person that manipulated me, and to stay safe and not give him anything else, I hid my online status. At a later time, he came back, when I was manipulated into giving my GK password, and as a result, I also hid my online status. Now others do it, maybe so that they're not bothered about when to move why aren't you doing more online, etc. Those questions, don't bother me at all, but I was concerned about my safety and being linked with someone, so I hid it. Now that things are over, for now, I have unhid it. As for me, I don't want to hide my status, but I do it when I feel that I need to. So, I'm glad that GK has this feature, anyhow, as by my books, it's also a safety measure.
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And, yes, if you hide your online status, it is, most certainly, hidden from your opponent. The only that then knows when their online is you, labyrinthine.
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Jkarp,no,it is the opposite.If I am hiding my online status my opponent DOES know when I am online when I am fiddling around with the game but have not made a move.All he has to do is look to see if I am "accessing the game or thinking"through the update feature.And I can do the same with my opponent,even if he never makes a move,I can tell when he is online,even when he is hiding his online status.Every time my opponent or me just looks at the game board,the little green light will show..."connected".So,hiding the online status works fine,but only for those who you are not playing against.I hide my status once in a while and sometimes I do not.But that is not the point.
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That is why. I hid my status from someone who I was no longer up against, at that point. You're right about being connected, as I completely forgot this. But, I played against someone whose online status was hidden. And, he was not hiding from he as I wasn't on his ignore list. And, I could see that green light when I was on, sometimes.
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Online Status
When I look at my games, I like to see when my opponent has been on. If its not shown, no big deal. If that players make moves often, I have seen those games go faster. I think having your status offline or hiding status means nothing to me. It might allow the person not to be disturb by online private messages when they are working and can't just be chatting while at work.
@ Jkarp,
How do you know someone is ignoring you or not? If you message that person does it tell you that you are being ignored?
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euro_pop_legend
02-Feb-20, 23:03
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Thanks redfoxrising.
I am a newer member to GK so,I may see things in a different light than others.The issue
here was not if a game moves faster or not with a light on,or if having a light on or off is not a concern or bother to anyone...perhaps yes,no,maybe.But it was about an issue that seems
a bit flawed in its total outright chemical makeup.Putting yourself on hidden online status
only works partially,not fully.It only works with players that you are NOT playing against.Your live opponents,however,can see that you are online when they check the chessboard "update".So,if you are playing 50 opponents at one time,then ALL 50 opponents will almost instantly know you are online,even though your PROFILE status says "Hidden by player".I was simply saying that it should work 100% at all times,even with your opponents.In other words,one should have an option to disconnect the "update"feature against your opponents as well.
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Your question is very good, Ron, especially since, I don't experiment with messages as it would be a waste of time especially if it involves several sentences that would be erased if you were being ignored. The wrong person that I hung out with at the time, told me a different way to find out which works the best for me. It's by experimenting with the friends list button. It's normal, when you try to friend them, and it asks if you want to be friends or not, as we know how that works. But, if you're on that said individual's ignore list, it won't give you that option. It'll say something like unable to friend him or her as he or she is ignoring you.
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got ya jkarp & labyrinthine
thanks joe that makes it easy! labyrinthine I understand how you feel, GK, figures it makes sense I would think. They make it their way and I can see what you would expect. I actually like when I see someone is on our game, and I will stay on the game after my move, I then set up conditional moves, I also use the notes to remind me of what I think are good moves. With that said I look for a good move then look even harder to find one better or just go with my move.
as for this quote"ALL 50 opponents will almost instantly know you are online,even though your PROFILE status says "Hidden by player" I think just the game you look at would show up live, So unless your scanning thru your games, you really only find like the needle in the haystack.
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Thanks for your input redfoxrising.I am still learning many of the features on this chess site.
I suppose everyone's views are a bit different.I am kind of the opposite and actually do not want my games speeding up more than they are now.So in a sense,I want total invisibility with all of my opponents as well as non opponents.But that is my view and wish,not necessarily the way others see it.No big deal either way.
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Yes, it kind of defeats the purpose for some who use it. A player may, for example, just want a slow, carefully thought out game (it’s still CC after all,) in which s/he plays around on the analysis board etc for a good while and doesn’t want to give their opponent the false impression that they’re about to move.
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yon_cassius
07-Feb-20, 06:46
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You could still work out when your opponent TENDED to be online though... just by looking at the game log.
(Probably works easier if it's set to local time, unless you happen to be in the same time zone as GK).
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Timing
My cousin played a guy who made all of his moves in the last thirty minutes. Knowing the fellow lived in California my cousin made his moves when he figured that guy would be stuck in rush hour traffic. Won a game he had been losing badly on a timeout that way.
I try to make my moves in the last twenty four hours, or 48 if I know I'm not going to have access, except for openings or anything worth programming.
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timing
I never though about checking the timing of the moves. I tend to want to finish up my games and let my active games go down and will use timing if able to end a game. I believe however I myself have automatic emergency postponement set up. It has saved me from timing out. What I never investigated was why I have timed out in the past. It may of been games from prior to when emergency postponements automatically trigger.
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