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neverherebefore
28-Oct-24, 13:04

2024 World Championship Predictions
Gukesh 8 Liren 5 What say you?
huvawa
25-Nov-24, 09:40

at this moment Gukesh 0 and Liren 1
puzzling
28-Nov-24, 19:41

Toss up...
It's a toss up and neither one seems dominant.

Gukesh seems to be pushing too far and allowing Ding to counter but then Ding played the horrible Rh5 allowing his bishop to get trapped... so, mistakes by both players.

I don't like how Ding gets so rattled when he makes mistakes and that could cause him to collapse like everyone is predicting.

I'll make my prediction after game 4 which is starting soon. 4am eastern time is brutal.
puzzling
29-Nov-24, 15:36

Well...
If Ding keeps playing for a draw with white then my money says Gukesh wins eventually.
archduke_piccolo
08-Dec-24, 12:16

Puzzling...
Seems you're right. Gukesh keeps pressing, the positions get really complicated and time gets short. In Game 11 Ding Liren made an elementary blunder in time trouble - not that the time trouble was yet acute - and overlooked the loss of a piece.

From what I've seen, Ding Liren has not been looking 'comme il faut' in this whole match. He's spending lots of time, but one forms the impression that it's not all time well spent. At any rate, with less than a minute a move remaining, Ding tried to pick up the pace, and slipped up at once.

Pity - but that's match play, I guess...
neverherebefore
12-Dec-24, 05:22

All hail the bew and youngest ever world champion GUKESH wins 7.5-6.5 over Ding
archduke_piccolo
12-Dec-24, 12:03

When I saw...
... this post, my immediate thought was 'How on earth did that happen?' At 2a.m. our time I left off watching. The game looked a dead(ish) draw: nothing to see here.

So I had a look. Once again, Ding Liren made an elementary blunder in a drawn position, but with time becoming a problem.

One does wonder if something is not quite right with Ding Liren. He outplayed Gukesh brilliantly in Game 12 to square the match, after Game 11's blunder. But time has been his enemy - or he has been the enemy of time. That takes its toll.
myrydin
13-Dec-24, 08:54

I, that please some, try all, both joy and terror
Of good and bad, that makes and unfolds error.

archduke_piccolo
03-Jan-25, 11:49

...
Gukesh's win was no random fluke
But due to Ding Liren's stapid mistuke.
myrydin
05-Jan-25, 11:45

Ha! I quoted Time from The Winter’s Tale, it seemed apt in response to your post about Ding Liren’s issues with time trouble.

It reminds me of exam nerves and quick chess times, I’ve had bad experiences of both. The clock is running down and it looks like you’re thinking, but your mind has gone blank and so you play a move because you have to. A bad one.
archduke_piccolo
05-Jan-25, 12:00

Yeah...
I've had that experience, and in OTB days I never did handle time trouble well. I still play 'Blitz Attack' most days - just one or two 'bouts', any more I find gets boring. Every now and then I simply can't see the solution (and they are usually pretty simple), and just take a stab.

The odd thing is, I try the Blitz attack 'misses' afterwards, and usually solve them quickly. My record is one second. Could have used that in the session itself!
euro_pop_legend
05-Jan-25, 12:16

Good job guys....
Truthfullly,I do not keep up with the top brass anymore.
I read what I read in Chess Life Magazine that I get every month,but then,I do not look at that magazine sometimes for months.No matter who is on top....that will change again no doubt
in a year or two.With others chipping away at the mountain top....sooner or later the
apex of the mountain will begin to fall down again and will be replaced by another mountain
climber.

Last,I kept up with Ian,Hikaru and Magnus(partly),but being from the Fischer era and
before the massive databases and opening book theory they have in todays world
which help the GM's out much more than decades ago,I simply have lost the serious
interest in the new world champion GM's today.No doubt in my mind that players
like Magnus would defeat Bobby Fischer IF Bobby was young,alive and kicking but
suddenly arose from the dead and without looking at all the new chess theory and
opening databases.Just my opinion,however.You know,when I was 12 years old,
my father took me to the Manhattan Chess Club in NYC and I personally met
Robert Fischer.I was just learning chess and was amazed at the crowd around him
and some fast blitz he was playing with the members.Memories,indeed.

Keep up the reports guys.I come back to the forums from time to time to make
note of what you guys are chatting about.