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luzhin657 18-Dec-24, 17:44 |
 Ding Liren Must have been paid off to make such a Novice blunder any average 1800 would never make?? |
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za19 18-Dec-24, 22:37 |
That's nonsense! "... it has to be the worst ever basic endgame blunder in history. " It's not. Check history! |
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USSR, eh? "Ding Liren muss dafür bezahlt worden sein, solch einen Anfängerfehler zu begehen, den ein durchschnittlicher 1800er niemals machen würde??" I agree with id-za19: this is nonsense. 1800-ers make such blunders and more egregious ones every day. More often than not they will spot the pitfalls avoid them, but that does not mean they will every time. From what I saw of the match, I formed the impression that GM Ding was out of sorts during the whole event. Perhaps the Championship mantle was heavier than he found comfortable, I don't know. He was certainly burning up a lot of time, having to quicken the pace late in just about every game. Yet he demonstrated more than once he was capable of outplaying his opponent. For his part, GM Gukesh adopted throughout the match a policy of keeping his opponent under pressure: taking few risks, continually asking nagging questions of the Champion. It was the sort of policy that would sit better with a challenger than a holder of the title. I have observed on occasions of difficult and stressful games that 'reality' changes, and what one sees is not quite what is actually happening on the board. Maybe GM Ding experienced just such 'changes in reality' - who knows? As to the 'quality' of the blunder itself, did anyone see the 2-move-mate BOTH PLAYERS MISSED in the recent Champions Chess Tour semi-final game between GMs Carlsen and GM Vachier-Lagrave? OK, it was 10-minute chess, but even I noticed. Recall that GM Ding's mistake also occurred when he was short of time... 'USSR' - what a hoot! |
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za19 21-Dec-24, 23:30 |
A mate in one In 1892, Mikhail Chigorin, a talented Russian grandmaster who was also one of the best in the world at the time, challenged Steinitz to a World Championship match. Steinitz had defeated Chigorin in the 1889 World Championship match and Chigorin was seeking vengeance in a rematch. Steinitz accepted Chigorin's challenge. The match was to be held in Havana, Cuba, the same location as the 1889 World Championship match between Steinitz and Chigorin. Chigorin had improved since the two's last meeting for the World Championship and was out to prove it. He knew that if there was anyone who could slow Steinitz down, he was the guy. Mikhail Chigorin Chigorin and Steinitz traded punches in the first few games of the match. They remained neck-and-neck down the stretch until Steinitz managed to score a clutch win in game 22. This put him a full point ahead of Chigorin, leading 11½ to 10½, and needing just one more win to defend his World Championship title for a fourth time. In game 23, Chigorin needed a win or a draw to keep the match going. Early on in the game, things were looking really good for him. Steinitz randomly hung a knight on move 23 and gave Chigorin a sizeable advantage. The game was trending in the right direction for Chigorin until, all of a sudden, he gave it all away with one shocking blunder! Mikhail Chigorin vs. Wilhelm Steinitz 0-1 1892 World Chess Championship Round: 23 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e5 Nh5 5. Be2 g6 6. d4 Bg7 7. O-O d6 8. Nc3 O-O 9. Ne1 dxe5 10. Bxh5 gxh5 11. dxe5 Qxd1 12. Nxd1 Nc6 13. Bxf4 Bf5 14. Ne3 Be4 15. Nf3 Rfe8 16. Ng5 Bg6 17. Nd5 Bxe5 18. Nxc7 Bxc7 19. Bxc7 Rac8 20. Bg3 Nd4 21. c3 Ne2+ 22. Kf2 h4 23. Bd6 Nd4 24. cxd4 Rc2+ 25. Kg1 Ree2 26. Rae1 Rxg2+ 27. Kh1 Kg7 28. Re8 f5 29. Ne6+ Kf6 30. Re7 Rge2 31. d5 Rcd2 32. Bb4 Rxh2+ That was a tough pill to swallow for Chigorin. He had been keeping up well with Steinitz the whole match, only to crumble in the final two games. His unfortunate mistake in that last game was especially depressing. It's never fun to lose, but to lose in that way must have been miserable. With his blunder, Chigorin illuminated the fact that even the strongest grandmasters can make silly mistakes. (from www.chess.com) |
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GM Tigran Petrosian Petrosian completely outplayed Bronstein, tied him up hand and foot, until he was reduced to making aimless back-and-forth moves, awaiting the axe. Petrosian found himself in a position in which almost anything sensible would have won - anything but hanging his queen. 1-nil to Bronstein. Nearly 50 years ago I knew a dude in Wellington - American, a teacher at the university - very much an amateur of no great strength. I never actually played against Teddy, but I would have fancied my chances, and I ain't no giant of the game. Rumour said he had beaten a Grandmaster - Sammy Reshevsky or Larry Evans, not sure which now, but it was one or the other. So we asked about it. Yep, he said modestly: he had won a game against this GM. Then he related the story. It was one of those huge mega-player weekend Swiss affairs. He found himself matched up in an early round against this GM. Not yet out of the opening - something like 9 moves in - the GM hangs a knight. The way Ted told it, he sat there shaking like a leaf, could scarcely believe his luck. He took the piece... and the GM quietly resigned. He reckoned that had the GM played on, the way Ted's nerves were, the GM would probably have won. Of course, what distinguishes players' strengths is consistency, rather than knowledge or vision. The stronger they get, the fewer their mistakes. |
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euro_pop_legend 15-Jan-25, 12:45 |
Deleted by euro_pop_legend on 15-Jan-25, 13:02.
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Do you all know the deeper story of how Bobby used psychology as part of his "weapon" to defeat Spassky?From not showing up to a game at first,letting Spassky sit there,asking for the lights to be turned up,different boards,changing chess rooms,temperture changes,subtle gestures and more?This did indeed rattle Spassky as many reports have mentioned and many believe threw off Spassky's game play and concentration.I have a book on it all,but have not looked at it now in over 10 years. TA |
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Absolutely facinating. |
