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Opinions about GK tournaments
Hi all, Could you share your opinion about what is going at GK tournaments? . Years ago I used to play at, but later take up that practice... What status is now?
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algol 13-Feb-10, 16:53
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Not many answers... I find 2 days/move too fast; I would play them if they used fisher incremental time control with 2 days increment but with e.g. 5 days max accumulated.
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mentall007 14-Apr-10, 18:40
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Fast gk
I find the 2days to fats as well. I think 7days would be better.
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Fisher or more days indeed
I would like to see the tournaments increased to 3 days or 2d+2d<5d as well ... But then lots of people will complaing about it taking years to complete so ... I guess they will never change it.
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algol 15-Apr-10, 18:51
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The long games are probably those where both players use their 2 days to the fullest. With the Fisher clock, these games would not last longer.
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kansasjayhawk 01-Jun-10, 19:47
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I'm okay with the 2 days/move
It keeps tournaments moving at a reasonable pace, so for somebody who plays every GK tournament (and occasionally moves on to another round), my games aren't backing up so much that I can't play non-tourney games.
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derman53 10-Nov-10, 04:11
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99% Rule
Lose the 99% rule. How much faster are rounds ending with this rule in place and how many people have been excluded from the next round because of it? Chess is suppose to be a slow game and one of patience. GET RID OF IT ALREADY.
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Change the timing rules
All GK tournaments should use the Fischer time controls. Preferably 3 + 1 < 5 or 3 + 1 < 3. And yes, get rid of the 99% rule. I understand why it was put in place, but I wouldn't want to be excluded from advancing because someone else was stalling games.
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kingdawar 11-Nov-10, 17:45
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If you're eliminated because of the 99% rule, next month there is a next chance starting in round 1 - and before the 99% rule kicks in, there should be at least three other GK tournaments started too. You can still be busy with GK tournaments despite being "eliminated"
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derman53 14-Nov-10, 00:03
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99% rule
You miss the point heinkat. It is a fast pace tournament at 2 days a turn and now we are pushed to finish the games even faster. I would be curious (and I asked this before without an answer) as to how much faster tournaments are starting? Also why is it important for these tournaments to finish faster? If the rule is necessary how about giving a week waning saying that these tournaments will be decided as a draw. Better yet I would prefer the games be sent for adjudication. I take my chess seriously and this is a handicap to my style of play. DERMAN
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eliminate 99% rule. . . .people who play the best games should go to the next round plain and simple
see above lol
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lostkarma 30-Dec-10, 20:04
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mini-tournaments cool---until!
Currently playing in a mini-tournament. Take a lot of time contemplating variations to where I may reach favorable future positional advantages,well the current leader withdraws from the tournament. I have not had a chance to play a game yet with him. Others have and most lost both their games. I won both games by his forfeiting them......Seem fair or does GK need a way of ensuring all get wins/losses or draws?? Really would respect GK opinions if or what may be done to simply keep competitive fairness. KEEP IT REAL!!!!! thekingni
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ketchuplover 03-Jul-13, 15:54
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Has anyone...
played in all 107 GK Tournaments? tia
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2 Days
Is the rule for Tournaments , and it is easily misused , players continually take 2 day vacations , If you can't move in 2 days why play? A better idea would be No vacations allowed during a Tournament and maybe , just an idea but how about 2 days in the early rounds and an increase during the later or serious rounds !!
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Fast and Furious
I tend to find the tournaments too fast as well. 6 of my ten timed out games were from a tournament, just because my computer glitched for 3 days! I generally play my worst chess during tournaments, which is why I no longer play in them.
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Are Players Joking ????
The 76th Tourney is still running that started in Dec. 2010 ! And players want them to take longer ? Why not make them round robin we would never finish them then , they take to long , 6 yrs is way to long
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The First Round...
The first round is pretty fast though. It's because high-level games take ages. By the way, it's more like 4.5 years, not 6.
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my maths is atrocious !!, Maybe the answer is 2 Tournaments , to choose from 1 for quicker players , and 1 with an extension on the Time , every month
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evader23 08-Jun-15, 19:42
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@amacivn I hope you are joking about the no vacations in tournaments. Each round takes months and I have a life. I very rarely use vacations but I need them (Even in tournaments) on occastion. the last time I took one was 9 month ago was when I was admitted to the hospital. I have a long planned vacation planned for the end of july and will postpone games then and that will probly be doing round three of the 126th ( I have never made to round three and am not going to mess it up) as far as time controls. I'd like a straight 3 or 4 days per move like the league and my open challeges respectively. I will usualy move every day but two days I feels more rushed than the 3 or 4 day Just my two cents
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@evader23
It was a bit tongue in cheek ! , especially when there are genuine players like yourself who don't abuse the vacations , I get a bit frustrated when the person I'm playing is getting beat and all of a sudden starts using the maximum time to move and going on vacations I even don't mind the 99% rule even if it went against me
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that's a funny thread
shame i missed it so far well, be glad to know that it seems tournament length moved into 2.5-4 years only Wish there would have been two kind of tournaments to chose from.
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pabi 01-Apr-19, 02:18
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176th GK
How can i play 176the GK tournaments
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@pabi
Hey hi ! You have just missed the start of the 176th GK tournament They start on the first Monday of a new Month , so you have to sign up Before the start date , and I'm pretty sure it's California time The next one starts on Monday 6th of May so you need to sign up anytime now and wait unfortunately You can apply to join mini-tournaments now and there are chess ladders and leagues to join
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Swiss anybody?
I agree with amacivn that the GK Tournaments take too long. Increase the time controls and you won't see me anymore. What I was wondering is, with all these options here on Gameknot, why is there no swiss-system tournament available!? Isn't that the most common tournament format in real life chess? A decent 9-round swiss-system tournament. In this case a slightly longer time control would be possible, as you're playing 9 games max. Forgive if already discussed, couldn't find it. Rad.
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Duration
Some play fast others slow. I tend to play fast because if I play more than 10 games simultaneously I do not feel as if it is a competitive event. I am not good enough to give simultaneous exhibitions. On the whole GK is the best compromise I have found because blitz chess does not give me time to think out a position and go through the learning process. But people do take advantage and are ungentlemanly by dragging things out. For example a few times now in my games people who should have resigned force me to play every move and then take ages to respond even asking for holidays while continuing to start new games. One really aggravating person made me continue even though he only had a king and I was about to add 2 queens to my rook. He is far from unique. It took another week to conclude that game, I nearly resigned because it was so infuriating. 2 days is more than enough, if tournaments took over 2 years then at my age I might never finish one. To the person who said chess is a slow game I would simply ask why world championships use clocks, clocks came in to stop ungentlemanly delaying tactics. Correspondence chess used to take ages because of snail-mail but with that out of the loop games should be faster. And as far as the 99% rule is concerned why should one person be able to hold everybody else up. As far as I am concerned it should be a 90% rule.
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Your example about the other guy only left with his King and you had lots of material sounds excessive. I thought that in GK tournaments there is some kind of judge available to declare such a game as finished.
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radboud ... there's no judge in on GK in tournaments you have to rely on your opponent resigning .... or mate ! I make no excuses for hardly ever resigning.... however I never stall or refuse to move because I'm losing 2 Queens against a King is a bit excessive in that situation I would resign... bassett53 I can only guess your opponent was trying to frustrate you into something ... in those situations ( unfortunately) we need patience lots of patience
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this therad is 11 years old
and nothing has changed so, perhaps no one else even cares
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@utopianfragments ... yet you still responded .... someone somewhere cares and they monitor the forums ... who would of thought ....
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Duration
I looked to see if I could claim a win but it is not possible. I know it is possible to fall into stalemate so rather than looking for a clever win I simply queened and closed the noose carefully. I suppose my opponent started playing faster at this stage but it was crazy to have to complete all the moves - I used pre programmed moves to try and speed it up otherwise it would have taken weeks. But the point I am trying to make is that if you have a number of people like that then it makes it frustrating for everybody waiting to get into the next round. I do not like it when people resign too early and some times in a losing position I play on a little because it gives my opponent practice. As an ex programmer I would have thought it quite easy to use game logs and recorded time per move rather than computer adjudication to determine the winner. This would be slightly more like using clocks to finish the few remaining slow games. Another way might be simply not to reset the clock to 2 days after each move, if you gave each player 10 days or some other number to finish a game it would let people ration their time but everybody would know exactly when the round would end. I suppose I think of the tournament as a competition whereas some people take up correspondence chess in order to ponder, and in that vein I take the view that if, for example, in Wimbledon a tennis player was injured then they must withdraw otherwise it might take weeks of recovery before the competition could be resumed. With GK running a new tournament every month I would not mind withdrawing and then start again when I could. Anyway I think GK is mostly great and tournaments are a great way to randomize who I get to play. By the way I never expect to win a tournament but if I can move from round to round it means I gradually get to meet stronger players which can only help me improve. But I only joined GK in February so I accept the platform for what it is.
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