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tennesseehiker 24-Apr-10, 19:34	The Stone Wall Janet (brigadecommander) has graciously offered her time and effort to help cultivate the chess skills -- strategics and tactics -- of the club's members who are rated 1200 and less. In this endeavor, Janet will be presenting topics like "Learn a Simple Opening" and other beginning chess concepts. She will present a series of moves, annotate them, and take questions as to her reasoning for the moves. All participants will be encouraged to ask as many questions as necessary for the participant to grasp the strategy or tactic presented. Please indicate your interest to participate in this most worthwhile project, although any lower rated member may join in the learning exercises at any time.
tennesseehiker 24-Apr-10, 19:35	I would like to participate in this endeavor. Let me be the first member to take advantage of this great learning opportunity.
f00fighter 24-Apr-10, 20:05	I would like to participate in this endeavor. Count me in
easy19 25-Apr-10, 00:28	Deleted by tennesseehiker on 25-Apr-10, 17:01.
tennesseehiker 25-Apr-10, 02:52	Deleted by tennesseehiker on 25-Apr-10, 17:01.
tennesseehiker 25-Apr-10, 02:53	Another interested party Nikki (jesstears) has asked me to sign her up for this learning opportunity.
heisenberg01 25-Apr-10, 04:23	Count me in Putting my hand up here
lady 25-Apr-10, 04:25	Need help!! I look forward to this learning opportunity.
jertf 25-Apr-10, 04:42	The Stone wall I would also like to participate
johntd 25-Apr-10, 04:43	I need all the help I can get Will be beneficial
lahr 25-Apr-10, 07:16	the stone wall Count me in please
rosebudsbeau 25-Apr-10, 08:13	the stone wall I could sure use the help! Count me in.
cleanearth 25-Apr-10, 09:39	stonewall good idea. any advise is welcome
elvenverb 25-Apr-10, 16:00	I will pay close attention. I haven't had any formal training in chess since I was 11 years old.
brigadecommander 25-Apr-10, 16:36	The Stone Wall To all the players wishing to take part in this endeavor i bid you greetings. The purpose of this exercise is to understand some basic Strategy and Tactics that you will need if you want to play chess better. The game we are about to peruse was shown to me when i was very young by my Father. It had a profound effect on me in that it opened up to me the ideas that to this day i use to conduct myself on the chess battlefield. For make no mistake!! when you are at the chess board you are on a battlefield. I will make use of Military terms and Rhetoric to simplify certain ideas. The Stone Wall has its roots at least as far back as the 14th and 15th Century. Today it not seen very often at top level play and only occasionally at the club level. It is certainly a simple and sound opening. It is a rock solid opening as its name suggests. Yet it is not a defensive Opening as its name also suggests. It is a offensive Opening!!. We will begin shortly...Janet
sirhenry 26-Apr-10, 04:09	Shrubbery Needs Help - Badly I'd like to take part please Janet. Best Wishes Chris
chopperpilot 26-Apr-10, 05:01	Help is always appreciated.. Thanks for taking the time to do this.. Thanks Jerry..
megatrack67 26-Apr-10, 05:29	count me in I'd like to be part of it Thank you Regards Mega
feargusto 26-Apr-10, 08:59	Yes Please I'm in Thankyou... Ferg
chrisjet 26-Apr-10, 13:50	me too thanx in advance; count me in! best, Chrisje-T
enyalives 26-Apr-10, 14:46	I'm in. Ok since you put it that way. I'll participate too. enya.
sixshooter5000 26-Apr-10, 16:14	Eh? Why not sure, why not?
brigadecommander 03-May-10, 12:20	to all who would have participated..... I am very sorry to have to cancelled this project. Easy19 has started a coaching project and its not a good idea to have two players with such different teaching methods going at the same time. It would cause confusion. Easy19 is a stronger player then i am and i'm sure you all are in better hands!!! good luck all!!!....Janet
gonefromgk 03-May-10, 12:30	Awww... Well phooey, Janet! I was looking forward to getting feedback on how the project was coming along. Don't postpone it for too long - I know there were a good number of chess players looking forward to it.
untateve 03-May-10, 12:58	Re: to all who would have participated Janet, I think I will disagree that it's not a good idea to have two players with different teaching methods going at the same time. Some will certainly learn better from one style and some from a differing teaching style. There are also those students who will learn well from two different teachers. Two different teachers will bring two different perspectives to the game. Given that you and Easy (freddy) are both 2000+ level players, I think it clear that you each have mastered the basics necessary for a 1200 level player to learn/improve. Your presentations of these basics will be different and but I think that in some ways, one teacher's lesson can reinforce the other teacher's lesson. Speaking for myself, I prefer to have the same concept explained/taught in differing methods as it helps me learn better. At any rate, since our last game, I've begun to study endgames.
archduke_piccolo 03-May-10, 13:50	I agree ... ... with untateve. Apart from anything alse, just as different teacher have different teaching methods, different students have different learning methods. At that, I'm not sure that you will both be covering the same ground. I understood that this thread was going to study the Stonewall system (for White or Black?), quite a handy opening for the relatively inexperienced. Its immediate aim is easily grasped, and you get experience in the handling of closed positions (which was a real problem for me as a beginner). I can't imagine that easy19 will be covering the same ground. I haven't seen his thread, but if, as i hope, he is looking at endings, or even the middlegame, the two threads will complement each other. Stay with it Janet, please. Cheers, Ion
paolo2504 03-May-10, 14:36	my very modest tribute to discussion... i understand Janet's mind and i agree. I was a teacher, not chess, and it's clear to me people who need to learn basics (like friends in this forum near 1000 points in rating) do need absolute certain knowledge, not doubts or even alternatives. Good players can be (and i'm sure Janet and easy19 are) good teachers but it's difficult to give people who start learn the right way. They can become really confused, even if teachers do their best. So if this was Janet's mind i agree and say it denotes hard decision for a young girl. My compliments. To be honest, i also understand Steve's mind. It's a different pov of course but a valuable one.
easy19 03-May-10, 23:31	ej :) Janet just keep going I do only the very basics of chess. and that is actually self study and not a real big deal. you are doing the stonewall, that is like ion says a total different piece of pie... ( I do not think i can teach that very well to others so you are the writhe girl for it. ) and it is not my intentions to intervene in your plans.
brigadecommander 04-May-10, 03:55	ok easy19 and you other guys i will begin again in a few days. I just figured you could handle the job better!!
brigadecommander 06-May-10, 10:33	To All.... Sorry i have not started yet. I have to go to Florida Saturday to get some Surgery done on my focal chords(nothing really bad). I will be back on the 13th. I will then begin our project. Please be patient as it will be well worth it. Janet
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