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how about some team mini tournaments?
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I think some minis could be a good idea
what about opening up club membership to include team members and not just captains?
any other ideas on how to stimulate some activity around here?
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Maybe some former captains, or with recommendations from other captains. Players who are not or have never been captains would undoubtedly be lost in some of our conversations. Additionally I think topics would stray much faster and personal attacks would become more prevalent. Perhaps we could rehash old conversations by starting new threads. I know I never page back into past club conversations and there may be a lot of people with new insights.
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sorry to disagree with you jj
why would topics stray much faster and personal attacks become more prevalent? if you have read some topics here then you would find you are describing the actions of some (former) club members.
I don't think captains are any better behaved or more polite or more professional than any other member on gk - the only differences are that we are willing to invest more time into this site and also invest more money to pay for the 'privilege' of team captaincy.
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Just judging by who I've played, sometimes it is a captain who can't stand that he lost, but more frequently it is a regular player. There is no factual basis for my statement, but if I were to predict a trend, I see all that BS becoming more prevalent. It's one of the reasons I don't comment as much around here as I would like. It's ok to disagree, but I'm above name calling and some individuals simply are not. I don't blame moderators, your job chilliman is not to baby sit a bunch of big children, it's just to police that all conversations meet GK requirements, but it gets out of hand sometimes because people like to be big shots while hiding behind a moderator. The reason I say it will become more prevalent is because this isn't the only club I'm a part of and this group is mild when it is exclusive to captains, whereas some other clubs are wild when they include anyone with an opinion. However, there are some very sophisticated gentlemen and gentlewomen on here whose insights would be a great benefit to everyone here. There are some on my own team, but I would choose carefully before I extended an invitation and I don't feel everyone would do that. Some captains may invite their entire team. I guess it boils down to the simple idea that if you're going to change the rules, you must first solidify the new rules to make sure there is no abuse
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Sorry about the huge paragraph, at this time my 'enter' key is not working
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Before you go about changing criteria, I suggest you review the purpose of Club Captain. If its purpose is to provide a forum for captains and co-captains to feel free and unencumbered in discussing their teams' issues and concerns, changing the membership criteria is not an option.
On the other hand, if it is to discuss general team management issues, captains and co-captains don't have a lock on opinions and insights on the subject, but you will run the definite risk of team members (and captains, too) publicly airing their teams' dirty laundry. And I'm not too sure anyone would like to own or moderate that.
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agreed JC, I'm not up for airing dirty laundry either.
what suggestions do you have for adding some life to this club then?
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I take it that "adding some life to the club" refers to increasing participation. I think there are several things we can do to accomplish that. Participation is an obvious measure of interest. Naturally we want to see a high level of participation because it validates our purpose. I suggest that activities that you choose are framed in such a manner that they advance the overall purpose of the club. For example, mini tourneys were mentioned as a possible activity to boost participation. Well, any club can set up a mini tourney on the mini tournament page and aside from taking sign-ups and posting updates and results, there's not a lot of interaction that promotes the club's purpose on "team issues and concerns". But if it's tweaked a little by looking for successful ways to provide team mini-tournaments and possibly testing the suggestions out, then the participation promotes the club's purpose and retains it's unique perspective.
There is an interesting activity going on in Club Morphy on the thread "A many-body chess game" gameknot.com . It's an activity where members play both sides of the board, but cannot make consecutive moves. In addition, a rationale/annotation is required for each move. It's an excellent learning exercise on posting fen diagrams, annotating and strategic and tactical thinking. A draw back is that it takes some guts to post a move and the stronger players typically end up doing the posting. But who is to say that the weaker and shyer members aren't following and perhaps there's an idea within the club membership to rectify the imbalance.
Consultation games between club/team members or even inter club/team members definitely raise participation. How many folks have had success with those and how did you guys go about doing it and will you do it again? Perhaps try out some successful formats for organizing the game, taking suggestions, voting, posting, etc.
Many clubs post offers for coaching. Who has had success at that and how are you doing it? Can we try it out here to see if it will work in the team and stuff like that.
In addition to activities that can be tested and taken back to the teams there you can also prime the pump with ongoing team issues. Someone (jj414??) had mention summarizing and regenerating some threads about ongoing team concerns and instead of waiting for members to post issues, the moderators can "prime the pump" with new topics of interest and relevant subject material.
Well, hopefully there is something in this rambling that you can use.
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I do like the mini tournament idea. We at Le Regiment are in the midst of our second invitational tournament, where the captains and some players of our team square off against captains of other teams. It has greatly improved our relations with other teams and I like to think that it has also upped our team prestige Unfortunately we can only include captains within a certain rating group, so our window is narrow. You can see this tournament in progress here gameknot.com
We could maybe also have a weekly standard conversation... maybe (sorry brainstorming here ) post the Top 25 list consisting of the top 25 on the ladder. It would spawn discussion and perhaps some friendly rivalries. I don't think too many captains look at the ladder until they're at a certain plateau, otherwise they just wait for their GK messages and follow it there.
I also still like the idea of allowing members who were captains previously, whether they're even associated with a team currently or not. They do retain insights and sometimes see things clearer than those of us a midst the haze of team competition.
Or Club Captain could host consultation games between teams in the manner that John Clark suggested. Team A plays Team B in a match where ALL the players on the team have a vote and say as to what move is made. It might be harder now with team messaging gone, but we could have an honorary trophy to be carried by the winning team into their title defenses.
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@jj414: I like the idea of a mini tournament between teams. What rating limits did you use?
Also, how did you make the icon with the tongue?
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Just the rating limits based off my ability. 1250-1550, but if I could find a willing captain to have a higher or lower rated tournament for captains, I would be happy with that. I also checked each of the invited players' 90 day rating trend, just as I would a team match.
The icon with the tongue is : P without a space
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@jj414: Thanks!
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any suggestions from our new mods???
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I will say you all are a stellar crew. I'm excited to see the changes and I can't wait to see where the club goes from here
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I'm excited too!
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Team tournaments?
An idea I had for team tournaments is to have either one player from each team - or to have a 9 player tournament, with 3 from each team....
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