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brigadecommander
17-Nov-09, 22:23

well if you move the knight...white checkmates you. And if you don;t protect the Knight white
takes it. So there is only one move! 17...f6.
brigadecommander
17-Nov-09, 22:24

Deleted by brigadecommander on 17-Nov-09, 22:24.
easy19
17-Nov-09, 23:18

Jim
f6 because there is a double attack on knight.

If not f6 white will capture the knight and trade queens after that means 3 points + and a winning position for white.
The knight is also preventing a mate, blocking the queen from reaching g7

Example if something else is played 17...a5 18.Qxe5 Qxe5 19.Bxe5 axb4 20.Bc7

so there is actually no choice here any other move then 17...f6 gives white a material edge
easy19
17-Nov-09, 23:19

lol good timing BC
posting almost at the same time
kendo-ka
18-Nov-09, 02:59

f6 protects the knight
If we move the knight then Qxg7#

If we move another piece other than the pawn on f7. Qxe5 Qxe5 Bxe5 white has two bishops and we have lost our knight and most likely the game.
kendo-ka
18-Nov-09, 03:02

Oh well
I'm a day late and somehow missed the answer to tennesseehikers post.  
paolo2504
18-Nov-09, 03:37

f6
looks the only good move even to me at this point.
duke58
18-Nov-09, 05:16

Deleted by duke58 on 18-Nov-09, 05:20.
duke58
18-Nov-09, 05:24

f6
For me also the best move at this point.
antagonistknight
18-Nov-09, 06:44

Deleted by antagonistknight on 18-Nov-09, 06:45.
brigadecommander
18-Nov-09, 07:18

After 17..f6 we should (depending on what whites move is) double the rooks on the e-file. The
Knight is
nicely centralized. But there are other things that can be said but i will not tip our hand(i assume
white reads this too). As i said before White missed his best chances by playing 11b4. This lead
to nothing more then tactical skirmishes reminiscent of the western front in WW1. He could very
possibly have taken control of the D-file and established a outpost on D6. Missed opportunities!!
how many times has that been seen in warfare?
doji
18-Nov-09, 09:21

I will
post 17... f6.
doji
19-Nov-09, 02:19

Deleted by doji on 24-Nov-09, 07:31.
antagonistknight
19-Nov-09, 05:18

18. ... a5
18. ... a5. We have diverted White's attack for the time being unless he/she tries something drastic.
brigadecommander
19-Nov-09, 07:40

i purpose 18...Rd6! leading to 19.Re1....Rad8. 20,A5....Qe7.21,Bf1.....R-d1 with a big positional
advantage +-. Although 18...A5 also leads to advantage i think 18...Rd6 leads to a larger
advantage without the complications....Bc
antagonistknight
19-Nov-09, 09:18

Question
Do you mean Bc1? Assuming you do the continuation should be 19. Bc1 axb4 20. Qxb4 c5 21. Qc3 Rxa4 (or 21. Qb1 Rxa4) either way we are strong on the queenside. The continuation I was expecting was 18. ... a5 19. bxa5 Rxa5 20. Qb4 Rda8 21. Bc3 Ng4.
As for 18. ... Rd6 what if white plays Bc1 or 19. Bf3 ... 20. Be2(I know what I expect from either one, but maybe you see something I do not that makes them invalid)? And explain 19. Re1 please, I am not seeing the reason why white would move there (which is why I expect one of the 2 bishops to move instead).
brigadecommander
19-Nov-09, 10:37

No not 21, BC1. But 21 Bf1. This is what i would do to counter blacks pressure on the C4 square.
White is in trouble and weather he plays 18 Re1 or some other move.The reason for 19,Re1 is to
allow this. 18....A5 is a great move and it is not invalid. I just am purposing the trebling of the
heavy pieces on the D-file as a more positional way of dealing with the position. Whatever White
does he cannot prevent this. Maybe your way is better!
easy19
19-Nov-09, 10:55

I see no trouble
Move 18 the game is just beginning. And a quick overview tells me that the game still is in equilibrium.

A5 is a good move but i find it to soon to play.
So first a small positional improvement with as extra result challenging the center and a provocation to swap queens.

So my move would be 18.Qc5 if you move it on the analyze board you will find it quit logical..
easy19
19-Nov-09, 11:07

Wait i was using the analyze board
and the move posted here was not yet made..
so i thought we where playing the white pieces.

so a correction and now playing black.. ( white made a average move )

18...b6 is my move of choice.. it prevents white from playing the move i suggested in the post before.. less aggressive and perhaps not as strong as Rd6 or Bc4 but if i am correct and the player with the white pieces is who i think it is then white will switch to the other side of the board just like i would do. ( and that will make the game more Positional and tactical )
tennesseehiker
19-Nov-09, 11:14

Move 18. Ng4
I vote for Ng4 as this puts pressure on one of "unknown's" rooks, and the knight is protected by our bishop. Further, the knight would then protect the f pawn.
kendo-ka
19-Nov-09, 12:48

Move 18
I'm going to vote for 18...b6
paolo2504
19-Nov-09, 12:56

18...Rd6!
i 'm with brigadecommander and vote for 18...Rd6! , imho most aggressive than 18...a5.
18...a5 is good but seems to me a longer path while 18...Ng4 seems to me unpredictable.
brigadecommander
19-Nov-09, 13:10

18....Rd6. 19,QC5....B6. 20,Qc3....Ra-d8 and the D-file belongs to black.
duke58
20-Nov-09, 04:26

a5
I vote for a5 as this is protected by our rook and queen. Shoud white take the pawn we can take whites pawn with thw rook still protected by our queen. We can gain 1 point over white if we take a4 with the rook. This will give us control over file a as well
doji
21-Nov-09, 11:57

What do we have?
18... a5: 2 votes (antagonistknight, duke58)
18... Rd6: 2 votes (brigadecommander, paolo2504)
18... b6: 2 votes (easy19, kendo-ka)
18... Ng4: 1 vote (tennesseehiker)
... someone who wants to make a break-through?
gonefromgk
21-Nov-09, 16:35

b6
My humble vote is for 18... b6
duke58
21-Nov-09, 20:03

b6
Lets go for b6.
easy19
22-Nov-09, 06:55

Funny stuff  
doji
23-Nov-09, 00:52

So
18... b6 it shall be.
doji
24-Nov-09, 07:31

Deleted by doji on 28-Nov-09, 00:20.
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