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johnclark 28-May-09, 17:09	move 11 I think capturing white's knight opens the gate for his castle to bear down on our queenside. If we intend to do a queenside castle [...0-0-0] in the near future, we definitely do not need to face an open b file and attacking a and c pawns. I still see the b5 square as a threat, either Bb5+ or Nb5-Nxc7+. However, the more I look at the position, the less I think of Nb5-Nxc7+. Perhaps more CRITICAL is white's queen on f2. First, it prevents us from castling queenside without first protecting our a7 pawn and second, we still face the loss our f pawn with Bxf4 followed by a recapture by his queen on f4. Right now I think it best to prevent the loss of our f pawn with 11...Qf6.
pennsylvaniadan 30-May-09, 05:04	move 11 If we go with Qf6 , won't he counter with Ne2. I think we are going to lose that pwn anyway. My point in eating his knight was to take away his option to castle while we would still have ours. He's going to end up attacking a and c pwns anyway but we will be in better position to attack him won't we? What do you others think? I think this move is very important and could determine the games outcome.
-zoe- 30-May-09, 05:47	move 11 how about Nf6 instead of Qf6?
ccchs10 30-May-09, 06:59	PAUL MICHAEL AND LIKE TO PLAY B7
johnclark 30-May-09, 09:07	sockerfan6- clarification I don't understand "B7". Do mean to move the b7 pawn?
johnclark 30-May-09, 13:35	Move 11 I think it's dangerous to open up the b file for white's rook. I think as long as his queen controls the a7-g2 diaganol he prevents us from castling queenside and excercises influence over the f4 square. 11...Qf6 allows white queenside play with his bishop and knight to the b5 square. 11...Nf6 allows white to have an open b file for his rook with 12.Bxf4 Bxc3 13.bxc3! So what about 11.g3? It forces him to spend a tempo vacating the f2 square, blocks and isolates his g and h pawns and forces him to relinquish one of his queen's options as mentioned above. I think 11.g3 is a very playable move.
pennsylvaniadan 30-May-09, 20:25	move 11 g3-Qf1-Qf6-Ne2----Then what?
johnclark 30-May-09, 21:23	penndan- move 11- Then what? Damn! Good point! That b file is going to open up for his rook regardless of what we do. OK, let's continue the line: 11...g3 12.Qf1 Qf6 13.Ne2!? with ...Bxb2 * hbird v Club Morphy I see two alternatives for white: 1) white can either exchange bishops on b2, or 2) white can move his rook out of danger to b1 So, if the exchange of bishops takes place on b2, we WIN a pawn and bishop with 13...Bxb2 14.Bxb2 Qxb2 15.Rc1 or Rd1 ...Qb4+!! 16.Kd1 Qxc4  ) If, white moves his rook out of danger with 14.Rb1 we take his bishop with 14...Bxc1. We are up two pawns and there's no bishop threat to f4. AND should white attempt to capture the f4 pawn with Nxf4 ...Qc3+ is waiting for an extra tempo and we haven't lost our pawn advantage. So what do you folks think?
pennsylvaniadan 30-May-09, 21:40	move 11 lets go g3 and see what he does------it may be a moot point---
coopershawk 31-May-09, 08:21	g3? IMO we need to stop moving pawns and develop some pieces. We are way behind in development. He has 3 pieces developed; we have 1. IMO 11. . g3 does not improve our position. It will probably be followed by 12.Qf3 (instead of 12. Qf1) putting the White Queen right back where White wanted it before, and guarding the knight -- making Qf6 by Black no longer a significant threat. Instead I like: 11. . .Qf6 -- making the threat now; and forcing him to defend it the threat at the same time we develop a piece. Then probably: 12.Bd2 Be7 We can follow that with the general plan and hope of developing along the these lines : 13. . .Nd7, 14. . .0-0-0, 15. . .Kb1, and 16. . .c6. (or 14. . .Ng6 if needed to protect the pawn after 13.Rf1). All in an attempt to develop our pieces, hold our one pawn advantage, and get rid of his pesky pawn on d5. Of course the plan will probably need to be adjusted as we go forward to respond to his threats, or take advantage of opportunities that might occur.
johnclark 31-May-09, 10:17	g3? Welcome back, Cascadejames! I agree that f3 would be a better square for white's queen as it eliminate black's checking potential on c3 which dilutes the effectiveness of the 11...g3 move. If we go with 11...Qf6, I'm pretty sure we will be looking at 12.Nc5! and we lose castling ability. But I'd rather lose castling ability than lose a pawn. Perhaps we should forget about castling queenside. I guess the better options remain as 11...Qf6 or 11...Bxc3 with plans to shelter the king other than with the castle move. That doesn't eliminate slipping the king behind the pawns.
ironbutterfly 31-May-09, 11:56	move 11 -- .......a6!? (or a6?!) And now for something completely different, as Monty Python used to say....... I'm thinking about the possibilities and effects of .....a6 here, which prevents his B or N from moving to b5 (and means the R doesn't have to defend it from his Q later on if it stays on a7). This allows us to keep the options of ....Qf6, g3 and Nf6 open for now (was it Nimzo who said that the threat of the threat was more important than its execution?). I know it's a waiting move, and may be too passive for you all, but......
johnclark 31-May-09, 13:26	11...a6? Doesn't 11...a6 lose a pawn to 12.Bxf4 Bxf4 13.Qxf4 or 12.Bxf4 Bxc3 13.bxc3??
ironbutterfly 31-May-09, 13:29	Sunday slumps mea culpa........I was slumped so far over the computer that his B was hidden behind the c2 pawn and I forgot the double attack.........
johnclark 31-May-09, 20:02	Black's 11th Move- End of discussion, time to vote hbird1830 v. Club Morphy gameknot.com 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d4 d6 6. h4 h6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Qf3 g4 11. Qf2 * This is another important move for Club Morphy. If there is no further discussion, please vote for one of the suggested moves: 11...Qf6 11...Bxc3 11...Nf6 11...g3 11...a6
pennsylvaniadan 31-May-09, 20:55	move 11 After all that great discussion, I'm going with my first inclination--Bxc3
tennesseehiker 02-Jun-09, 17:55	move 11 I, too, vote for Bxc3. While this does not preclude the king from castling, it most definitely does compromise the integrity of the queenside castle as stated above.
coopershawk 03-Jun-09, 21:20	Deleted by coopershawk on 03-Jun-09, 22:17.
coopershawk 03-Jun-09, 22:20	11. . Qf6 The Bishop is holding our position together. It's our only developed piece. I don't think we can afford to trade it off. I don't want to be at this stage of the game with all of our surviving pieces sitting on the back row.
ironbutterfly 04-Jun-09, 09:00	move 11.......Qf6. For me it's a hard choice between .....Qf6 and ......g3, but I've decided I'd rather hold off on the threat of .....g3 for now (instead of probably forcing his Q to f3), so my vote is for ......Qf6.
johnclark 05-Jun-09, 19:33	Club Morphy's 11th move- 11...Qf6 Sorry for the delay. As the vote was tied I was waiting for one more member to vote. Since that did not happen, I as coordinator cast the tie breaker. Results: 11...Qf6 (3 votes; coordinator's vote breaks tie) 11...Bxc3 (2 votes) 11...Nf6 (0 votes) 11...g3 (0 votes) 11...a6 (0 votes) hbird v. Club Morphy gameknot.com 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d4 d6 6. h4 h6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Qf3 g4 11. Qf2 Qf6 * hbird has 3 days to make his move. We can relax for a bit  )
coopershawk 07-Jun-09, 10:25	Don't wait for my vote or comment Ongoing business and family obligations are likely to make it impossible for me to make timely contributions for the next month or two. Try to develop more pieces ASAP! Good luck.
antagonistknight 10-Jun-09, 12:33	12. Bd2 Checked in after the normal 3 day posting period and I noticed that jc has not posted my move here yet so here it is. I know jc is busy, but wanted to make sure you have ample time to dicuss you move. 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d4 d6 6. h4 h6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Qf3 g4 11. Qf2 Qf6 12. Bd2
ironbutterfly 10-Jun-09, 20:41	move 12 I think there are several moves worth thinking about: 1. I like .....a6 with the idea of Bd7 and a later 0-0-0 (or possibly Bd7 first) 2. g3 (again) I'm off on a 10-day vacation to Alaska - good luck, team!
pennsylvaniadan 11-Jun-09, 19:56	move 12 Well, I think we let him back in the game because he can castle now, nevertheless, we've got to go a6 and if he castles go g3 on the next move followed by h5 to open up the g4 square for our bishop if necessary----There is no rush for us to castle is there? We may want to hold off and see how it goes---he is set up to mount an attack on that side of the board if we do castle.
johnclark 11-Jun-09, 20:03	12...a6 I concur.
johnclark 11-Jun-09, 22:14	Club Morphy 12...a6 There was on one suggested move, 12...a6. All we in agreement. Voting is waived and the move is made. hbird v Club Morphy gameknot.com 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d4 d6 6. h4 h6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Qf3 g4 11. Qf2 Qf6 12. Bd2 a6 * It is now hbird's move.
johnclark 12-Jun-09, 23:04	It's Club Morphy's move hbird has moved 13.0-0-0 * hbird v. Club Morphy gameknot.com 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d4 d6 6. h4 h6 7. Nc3 Nc6 8. d5 Ne5 9. Nxe5 Bxe5 10. Qf3 g4 11. Qf2 Qf6 12. Bd2 a6 13. O-O-O * We are now open for suggestions and discussion.
pennsylvaniadan 13-Jun-09, 00:01	move 13 as previously stated---g3---
ironbutterfly 13-Jun-09, 06:05	move 13 I like 13.......g3 also, perhaps following up with ......h5 to fix his h-pawn. There are some other moves to at least think about though: a) what happens if we push .....f3 instead, and follow it with .....Bd4? b) .........b5 gives us a lot more space on the Q-side, and begins to put some pressure on his castled K
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